NetLogo VS Fennel

Compare NetLogo vs Fennel and see what are their differences.

NetLogo

turtles, patches, and links for kids, teachers, and scientists (by NetLogo)
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NetLogo

Posts with mentions or reviews of NetLogo. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-01-17.
  • Ask HN: Yo wants to build a game, I'm lost. What can I do?
    20 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jan 2024
  • Why Is the Other Lane Always Faster? (2018)
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Jul 2023
    This is exactly the kind of problem NetLOGO is geared toward modelling and solving. It is very much like the LOGO (turtle graphics) you might have learned as a tween, but multi-agent, so you can model the behaviour of several types of cars (fast, slow, hesitant, etc), design a few multi-lane obstacles, and let 'r rip.

    There are 3D and 2D versions, but your problem will quite suit the 2D version.

    Check it out. I'd love to see the results, as your subject is one of very common interest.

    https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/

  • Explain what 'immanent critique' is, but like i'm a 10 year old
    1 project | /r/CriticalTheory | 5 May 2023
  • Personality variation eroded by simple social behaviors in collective foragers
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Mar 2023
    From the title it sounds like research on humans but the paper is actually all about a simple software model of a group of entities going 'foraging'

    The model is using a program called NetLogo

    https://github.com/NetLogo/NetLogo

    https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/index.shtml

    Source code for the model used in this paper

    https://figshare.com/articles/software/Netlogo_code_supporti...

    Seems like a fun program, you set up 'turtles' and give them attributes and rules and then watch them roam around

    I thought this was interesting:

        ;adding individual noise into the speeds of individuals, to avoid computational problems caused by all individuals being on top of each other in a cell
  • Is there a way to reduce level of detail in 2d TileMap?
    4 projects | /r/godot | 13 Feb 2023
    (Patches = Cells, Turtles = Agents) https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/
  • This round of Rock, paper and scissors
    1 project | /r/oddlysatisfying | 7 Dec 2022
    Looks like it wad probably made in netlogo: http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/
  • Deploying frontend + backend with NetLogo integration?
    1 project | /r/AZURE | 16 Aug 2022
    My team has a simulation model in NetLogo that needs a separate UI (data with will flow back and forth between simulation and UI, largely in the form of csv files). How might this be set up in Azure? Any recommendations for UI frameworks (React+Flask, Vue+Express, etc.) or file [system log] storage? I am very new to development so any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
  • # Freelance
    1 project | /r/NetLogo | 12 Aug 2022
    I have a piece of code in NetLogo programming language that I am unable to run in NetLogo software (https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/) as I am facing some errors while doing so. If anyone can help me, we can discuss the budget.
  • Ant colony simulation
    1 project | /r/artificial | 20 Apr 2022
  • NetLogo installer contains 90k+ files?
    1 project | /r/NetLogo | 8 Feb 2022
    I was scanning the NetLogo installer to make sure I got the correct version, and didn't instead get a virus, but the antivirus has been running for a while and it reports greater than 90K files (still running) in the NetLogo installer. Is this right? I got it from here: https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/

Fennel

Posts with mentions or reviews of Fennel. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-28.
  • Did we lose our way in making efficient software? – ~30 MB doc file vs. browser
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Apr 2024
    It's interesting: minimal software is out there, but folks don't tend to choose it. I spend a fair amount of time thinking about how to be conservative in my dependencies, and this encourages a lightweight stack that tends to perform pretty well. These days, I'm favoring tools like Lua, SQLite, Fennel[0], Althttpd[1], Fossil[2], and the Mako Server[3] and find that great, lightweight, stable, efficient software is to be had, for free, but you have to go a bit off the beaten path. This isn't stuff you hear about on Stack Overflow.

    In terms of frontend, which the post focuses on (Google Docs and a 30MB doc), I guess I'm conflicted. While I tend to favor native apps + web pages, I'm also a daily Tiddlywiki user, and I really think web apps have their place (heck, one idea I'm working on is a lightweight local server that lets you run web apps like Tiddlywiki). But without a doubt, Tiddlywiki is more resource intensive than Emacs (my go-to for notetaking when I'm not on TW). My tab for a 6MB Tiddlywiki file uses 155MB of RAM, and my (heavily customized, dozens of open buffers) Emacs session uses 88MB. So I do think the author has a good point.

    [0]: https://fennel-lang.org/

  • Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Dec 2023
    Eh it's not just luajit and luajit didn't create that problem either. It's a symptom of lua actually succeeding at its design goal of being easily embedded as an extension language. A significant number of incompatible runtimes are more popular than the most recent puc lua, including I believe the older official lua 5.2 released in 2011.

    I've done a fair bit of professional lua development and I don't think I've ever written standalone up-to-date puc lua except maybe for some tooling & scripts. It's such a small language and used in such a way that the runtime, distribution method, and available APIs have much more impact on your use (and compatibility) than the version.

    Virtually everyone shipping a lua environment is also shipping changes to it that make it a unique target, if only extensions to the standard library. This is why I think syntax layer-only approach like fennel's is the correct choice for improving on lua. It mirrors lua's runtime semantics exactly, and allows you to access the implementation peculiars on their own terms and so can just be run on time of any lua system.

    https://fennel-lang.org

  • LÖVE: a framework to make 2D games in Lua
    26 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Sep 2023
    Just learned about https://fennel-lang.org/ , could have probably used that as well to avoid Lua.
  • The Bipolar Lisp Programmer
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Aug 2023
    > I’m positive that there is a Lispy language out there (actually in existence, or the aether) that is appropriate for embedded work, but the constraints of the target make it difficult to envision.

    Perhaps Fennel* fits the bill?

    * https://fennel-lang.org/

  • The Future of the Vim Project
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Aug 2023
    I've also seen neovim plugins written in fennel [0], so if you want something lispy, that's possible now.

    [0]: a Lisp that compiles to Lua, https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel

  • Qual a linguagem que vocês mais gostam de programar?
    2 projects | /r/brdev | 26 Jun 2023
  • Can I use elixir as the scripting language of my game engine?
    1 project | /r/elixir | 6 Jun 2023
  • TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 May 2023
    Something similar: Fennel (https://fennel-lang.org/) is a lisp that compiles into Lua, which nvim can use as plugins, so you can write nvim plugins in a lisp. Aniseed (https://github.com/Olical/aniseed) makes this really easy.
  • Announcing automation-service: write and schedule home automation scripts in Lua
    3 projects | /r/haskell | 12 May 2023
    If you want a more FP language on the Lua runtime, you might be interested in Fennel. I wrote a post about adding Fennel compiler to a hslua interpreter a while back, which might be useful for you.
  • 916 Days of Emacs
    12 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Apr 2023

What are some alternatives?

When comparing NetLogo and Fennel you can also consider the following projects:

agentpy - AgentPy is an open-source framework for the development and analysis of agent-based models in Python.

janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm

rust-agent-based-models - Reliable and efficient agent-based models in Rust

urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua

Agents.jl - Agent-based modeling framework in Julia

nvim-lspconfig - Quickstart configs for Nvim LSP

ReinforcementLearning.jl - A reinforcement learning package for Julia

Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32

medley - The main repo for the Medley Interlisp project. Wiki, Issues are here. Other repositories include maiko (the VM implementation) and Interlisp.github.io (web site sources)

lua-languages - Languages that compile to Lua

rocky-logos - The source for Rocky Linux's logo package

webassembly-lua - Write and compile WebAssembly code with Lua