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There is certainly a lot of speculation in Techempower benchmarks and top entries can utilize questionable techniques like simply writing a byte array literal to output stream instead of constructing a response, or (in the past) DB query coalescing to work around inherent limitations of the DB in case of Fortunes or DB quries.
And yet, the fastest Ruby entry is at 274th place while Rails is at 427th.
https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s...
Most of the speed I believe is from using the server iodine https://github.com/boazsegev/iodine which is a wrapper around facil.io https://facil.io that is built using C.
Most of the speed I believe is from using the server iodine https://github.com/boazsegev/iodine which is a wrapper around facil.io https://facil.io that is built using C.
Also this doesn't show how database access is handled which is the hard part. If you are not touching the database, you can run Rails on falcon and get fiber based concurrency.
If you run falcon on rails and access database, then you have to explicitly checkin/checkout a connection to be safe. Details here - https://github.com/rails/rails/issues/42271.
I used HTMX since the intercooler days [0] but the stuff you can make is rather limited. Also you still need the JS to deal with a11y things like expanded state (or hyperscript, apparently).
If you have a lot of components to implement, everything requires thinking.
I really love it for simple applications though. Resist implementing a complicated menu, live notifications, an editable data-table and such non-web-native things and you can create the fastest CRUD app ever.
And you will need another client, but that's not really an issue if your view model does not contain non-public data (it shouldn't), as you can convert it to JSON at the same endpoint and call it an API.
[0]: https://intercoolerjs.org/
So what would be a better benchmark? Perhaps a "standard" "real world" app, like https://github.com/gothinkster/realworld
Or something simpler?
> It always puzzled me why Crystal didn't catch up?
M:N wasn't added until late 2019 :( -- https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/pull/8112
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