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It seems like you're confusing/conflating mamba and the conda-forge package repository. conda-forge is IMO the more important thing to recommend---mamba AFAIK just provides better speed/QOL.
Just to further clarify: you don't need mamba to avoid the Anaconda distribution. The place you get mambaforge also supplies (and originally supplied) miniforge, which is miniconda with conda-forge set as the default channel. All the *forge installers do in this regard is automatically set conda-forge as the default (and only) channel, which is something one can do manually with miniconda.