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tao
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What backwards-incompatible changes would you make in a hypothetical Rust 2.0?
If you want some prior work on this, I've implemented effect-objects-as-return-values in my own language Tao, using uniqueness types. There's still work to be done, but I think it's sufficient as a proof of concept that this approach is viable without type soup.
- Why does Rust have parameters on impl?
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What are Rust’s biggest weaknesses?
I've personally found through my experiments working on my language Tao that having effects be a property of the return value and not the function itself is very useful and opens up a lot of doors, like iterators that generate effectful values and more precise control over when side effects occur and in what context.
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Hey Rustaceans! Got a question? Ask here! (29/2022)!
If you’d like to see some examples of great error messages written by a language with a parser combinator, I recommend you check out tao, which is parsed via chumsky, and provides rust-like error messages with the help of ariadne! I have been fiddling with writing my own language for a while now, and after trying out the alternatives, I found Chumsky to be great to work with, and can not recommend it enough. There are also great examples that you can find in the repo as well!
- Tao: A statically-typed functional language
- Tao: 一种静态类型的函数式语言 (Tao: A statically-typed functional language)
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Hacker News top posts: Jul 5, 2022
Tao: A statically-typed functional language\ (0 comments)
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Write your own programming language in an hour with Chumsky
I've been developing both throughout the development of Tao, my own hobby language. It's since developed quite an extensive syntax (see here for an example: https://github.com/zesterer/tao/blob/master/examples/99.tao), so you can count it as evidence that chumsky scales to complex grammars: https://github.com/zesterer/tao
rfcs
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Ask HN: What April Fools jokes have you noticed this year?
RFC: Add large language models to Rust
https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3603
- Rust to add large language models to the standard library
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Why does Rust choose not to provide `for` comprehensions?
Man, SO and family has really gone downhill. That top answer is absolutely terrible. In fact, if you care, you can literally look at the RFC discussion here to see the actual debate: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/582
Basically, `for x in y` is kind of redundant, already sorta-kinda supported by itertools, and there's also a ton of macros that sorta-kinda do it already. It would just be language bloat at this point.
Literally has nothing to do with memory management.
- Coroutines in C
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Uv: Python Packaging in Rust
Congrats!
> Similarly, uv does not yet generate a platform-agnostic lockfile. This matches pip-tools, but differs from Poetry and PDM, making uv a better fit for projects built around the pip and pip-tools workflows.
Do you expect to make the higher level workflow independent of requirements.txt / support a platform-agnostic lockfile? Being attached to Rye makes me think "no".
Without being platform agnostic, to me this is dead-on-arrival and unable to meet the "Cargo for Python" aim.
> uv supports alternate resolution strategies. By default, uv follows the standard Python dependency resolution strategy of preferring the latest compatible version of each package. But by passing --resolution=lowest, library authors can test their packages against the lowest-compatible version of their dependencies. (This is similar to Go's Minimal version selection.)
> uv allows for resolutions against arbitrary target Python versions. While pip and pip-tools always resolve against the currently-installed Python version (generating, e.g., a Python 3.12-compatible resolution when running under Python 3.12), uv accepts a --python-version parameter, enabling you to generate, e.g., Python 3.7-compatible resolutions even when running under newer versions.
This is great to see though!
I can understand it being a flag on these lower level, directly invoked dependency resolution operations.
While you aren't onto the higher level operations yet, I think it'd be useful to see if there is any cross-ecosystem learning we can do for my MSRV RFC: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3537
How are you handling pre-releases in you resolution? Unsure how much of that is specified in PEPs. Its something that Cargo is weak in today but we're slowly improving.
- RFC: Rust Has Provenance
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The bane of my existence: Supporting both async and sync code in Rust
In the early days of Rust there was a debate about whether to support "green threads" and in doing that require runtime support. It was actually implemented and included for a time but it creates problems when trying to do library or embedded code. At the time Go for example chose to go that route, and it was both nice (goroutines are nice to write and well supported) and expensive (effectively requires GC etc). I don't remember the details but there is a Rust RFC from when they removed green threads:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/0806be4f282144cfcd55b...
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Why stdout is faster than stderr?
I did some more digging. By RFC 899, I believe Alex Crichton meant PR 899 in this repo:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/899
Still, no real discussion of why unbuffered stderr.
- Go: What We Got Right, What We Got Wrong
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Ask HN: What's the fastest programming language with a large standard library?
Rust has had a stable SIMD vector API[1] for a long time. But, it's architecture specific. The portable API[2] isn't stable yet, but you probably can't use the portable API for some of the more exotic uses of SIMD anyway. Indeed, that's true in .NET's case too[3].
Rust does all this SIMD too. It just isn't in the standard library. But the regex crate does it. Indeed, this is where .NET got its SIMD approach for multiple substring search from in the first place[4]. ;-)
You're right that Rust's standard library is conservatively vectorized though[5]. The main thing blocking this isn't the lack of SIMD availability. It's more about how the standard library is internally structured, and the fact that things like substring search are not actually defined in `std` directly, but rather, in `core`. There are plans to fix this[6].
[1]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/arch/index.html
[2]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/simd/index.html
[3]: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/blob/72fae0073b35a404f03c3...
[4]: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/88394#issuecomment-16...
[5]: https://github.com/BurntSushi/memchr#why-is-the-standard-lib...
[6]: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3469
What are some alternatives?
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rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.
tauri - Build smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications with a web frontend.
bubblewrap - Low-level unprivileged sandboxing tool used by Flatpak and similar projects
pom - PEG parser combinators using operator overloading without macros.
crates.io - The Rust package registry
mlton - The MLton repository
polonius - Defines the Rust borrow checker.
owo - Export your OneNote note collection to Obsidian, Logseq, Org Mode or any other plain text note-taking app! [Moved to: https://github.com/alopezrivera/OneNoteExporter]
Rust-for-Linux - Adding support for the Rust language to the Linux kernel.
chumsky - Write expressive, high-performance parsers with ease.
rust-gc - Simple tracing (mark and sweep) garbage collector for Rust