www.submarinecablemap.com VS Openstreetmap

Hillsboro, Oregon's network connections have a lot of advantages. It's worthwhile checking it out here: https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ --Katie

Now you can say that you've 'seen' the internet. You can see the map here

Looking at this site there are 3 companies that own/operate undersea cables to the US

This unfortunately won't get you the whole picture, but using some tools you can determine how your traffic is routed in one direction, and possibly the geographic path it takes as well. For example, in mine, I can see based on the names that I know my traffic is going through Equinix San Jose (equinix-sj), then likely to Palo Alto (pao1, palo), then to Los Angeles (lax). By looking up who owns what IP addresses, I can also see that my traffic goes from my local ISP (Sonic) to Telia, then to Amazon. While concerning, you can effectively ignore all of the hops that say "Request timed out." as those just mean the hop wasn't responding to pings (or in the case of the very end, the game server itself likely doesn't respond to pings). Unfortunately though, this is only half of the picture, as this doesn't let me see the path from anets servers to me. For that, I would need an AWS instance with similar routing rules to anet's servers. Still, this may be useful, as I'm guessing your traffic is using a submarine cable to get to anet's servers in the US. These unfortunately often have issues or maintenance that can cause measurable connectivity impacts - I'm in the US and we have a node on the NLNOG Ring, and we get alerts of connectivity issues with Europe on a regular basis.

Well. Significantly more than that due to latency from switches etc and also because of the fact that there's so little land along the equator, meaning there's only one cable that travels roughly equatorially. It's from Fortaleza, Brazil to Kribi, Cameroon: https://www.submarinecablemap.com/

If you set up a bunch of good first-surface mirrors, I'm pretty sure you could get to pretty much the speed of light. You'd have to put them pretty high up in the air to avoid hitting things (a problem for cables as well, obviously) but putting the beam 2km in the air would still only lengthen the path by 4pi km, or .03%.

I have always found it very neat that the propagation speed of a light wave in glass is roughly the same as electrical waves in a coaxial cable. Both are shockingly slow compared to air/vacuum, but for completely different reasons. In both cases the advantages in signal integrity are immense.

I wouldn't compare osm-website and osm-carto at all. The commit logs are very different.

openstreetmap-website: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/commi... . Numerous commits most days.

openstreetmap-carto: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/commits . So far in 2024; one small regression fixed, one niche bit of tagging added to an existing style, some largely pointless code style tidying. That's it.

Contributing is simple:

1. When you see a trail or any other feature that doesn't appear on the map, take a picture.

2. When you get home, visit https://www.openstreetmap.org and start drawing.

The website has satellite images overlayed wirh map data, so it's easy to see what you are doing.

You can look at your pictures to remind yourself of what was missing.

If you have recorded your ride,you can also upload your GPX trace to OpenStreetMap to make it easier to trace features that don't show up clearly on satellite images.

What impressed me was that it looks like openstreetmap shows the bridge as down already.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/39.2144/-76.5279

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Way overdue. OpenStreetMap's website at openstreetmap.org is its calling card, and for the past few years the default style shown (called Carto) has all but stagnated in development. Accepted features like highway=busway (introduced three years ago) are not rendered there because the maintainers can no longer be bothered, or dislike the tag personally despite broad community backing.

What worries me for this new effort is that Paul Norman is one of the two remaining Carto sometimes-active maintainers who refuse to merge contributed PRs or even provide alternative minimal support for features like highway=busway, leading to awkward gaps on the baseline map shown on openstreetmap.org.

I would love to be surprised in a positive way about this new effort, but I'm not holding my hopes up. Thankfully OpenStreetMap can be thoroughly useful in apps like OsmAnd and OrganicMaps, and the tile-based Tracestrack Topo layer on openstreetmap.org is getting quite decent:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#layers=P

https://www.hotosm.org/tools-and-data runs software that's used for example after an earthquake. The tasking manager specifically is a reactjs app plus postgresql with plenty of open issues. HOTOSM has full-time staff, I'm not sure if the developers are full-time, but it's more organized than a volunteer project.

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/ is Ruby on Rails (easy installable with a docker setup). The maintainers have trouble even reviewing incoming PRs so an experienced person who can triage, test, review is currently needed.

If you're in the US then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_for_America might be worth having a look at.

https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ will soon annouce vetted organizations who do open source. (last year https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2023/organizati...). Project are paid, the process is long though, all summer. https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline

> 9450 S. W. Barns Rd

Portlandians: Are Barns Rd and Barnes Rd the same thing? Looks like a nice spot if so: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.50901/-122.77468

That building is now a SFX agency: https://hellohinge.com/ (No relation to the dating app)

Also curious if the TEKsystems employment agency next door took its name from Tektronix.

Yes, https://www.openstreetmap.org has quite inconsistent detail as it relies on people mapping stuff.

And help is welcome, anyone can join and help with mapping!

It's shown on OpenStreetMap, but not as a street: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.3682/1.0330