wizard-engine VS wazero

I think I would like the former syntax. Witness one of the several nested matching situations I run into:

https://github.com/titzer/wizard-engine/blob/master/src/engi...

This would be much, much better if Virgil had pattern matching on tuples of ADTs.

Congrats to the Wasmtime team on the 1.0 release!

I'm happy to see that more runtimes are maturing and getting use on production cases... I can't wait to see and show what the future entails for WebAssembly on both the server side and the browser!

Keep up the good work. Also I'd like to use this message to congratulate other runtimes that I'm excited about (apart from Wasmer, of course!): Wizard Engine [1], Wazero [2] and Lunatic [3].

The future is bright in Wasm land :)

[1] https://github.com/titzer/wizard-engine

[2] https://github.com/tetratelabs/wazero

[3] https://github.com/lunatic-solutions/lunatic

A classic "easy" thing that appears "hard": write a little bit of assembly. Note, a little bit[1].

Writing assembly, again, in small amounts, is exactly the kind of thing that is difficult to start, and fails spectacularly if you have little experience. Debugging is a pain. But you can totally get the hang of writing assembly, and as long as you are doing it for the right reasons (TM), it's justified, and heroic. The key is you need to write and debug a little at a time.

Case in point, I wrote an entire Wasm interpreter[2] in x86-64 asm over the past few months. I wrote it a little at a time, had lots of unit tests, and am working in an engine that was already working (with a slower interpreter).

[1] If you find yourself writing more than a few hundred assembly instructions in a sitting, you are going to fail. If you find yourself writing more than a few thousand assembly instructions, you have already failed.

[2] https://github.com/titzer/wizard-engine/blob/master/src/engi...

https://github.com/tetratelabs/wazero/releases/tag/v1.7.0

This includes the final release of the new optimizing compiler, which is a big improvement over the previous one.

The new version also adds experimental support for threads and snapshot/restore (setjmp/longjmp).

This is already being used by go-pgquery, all will mean that sqlc won't need to ship to almost copies of wazero (these features had been implemented on a friendly fork, and have now been up-streamed).

> Go actually has one of the best WASM runtimes https://github.com/tetratelabs/wazero

Wazero looks super cool. I saw somewhere that programs can be run with a timeout, which sounds great for sandboxing. The program input is just a slice of bytes [1], so an interesting use case would be to use something like Nats [2] to distribute programs to different servers. Super simple distributed computing!

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1: https://github.com/tetratelabs/wazero/blob/main/examples/bas...

2: https://natsbyexample.com/examples/messaging/pub-sub/go

It is slower.

The WASM runtime wazero [1] uses a compiler on amd64 and arm64 (on Linux, macOS, Windows, and FreeBSD), but the current compiler is very fast (at compiling), but very naive (generates less than optimal code).

An optimizing compiler is currently being developed, and should be released in the coming months. I'm optimistic that this compiler will cover the performance gap between WASM and modernc.

[1]: https://wazero.io

I am a fan of the Jacobin project! For your uses, you may also want to consider wazero [1], a pure-go WebAssembly runtime. Full disclosure: I am on the team :)

[1]: https://wazero.io/

No longer does Wasm/WASI need JS host! There are many spec-compliant runtimes built for environments from tiny embedded systems up to beefy arm/x86 racks:

- https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasm-micro-runtime

- https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime

- https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer

- https://github.com/tetratelabs/wazero

- https://github.com/extism/extism (disclaimer, my company's project - makes wasm easily embeddable into 16+ programming languages!)

full disclosure: I don't work on it, but the devs are committers/contributors to https://wazero.io (I am a wazero committer) :)