webviz VS vite

For the web based part, in terms of integration with ROS RobotWebTools (especially with RoslibJS) and rosbridge cover already a lot, so maybe you may want to first check what's available there. Webviz is also a great web based tools with many components for visualisation.

Hey HN, one of the creators here! I made it at Cruise because it was super painful to develop https://webviz.io with manual memory management (lots of ArrayBuffers), WebWorkers, etc. I thought that there must be a better way.

Very curious to hear stories from other folks building intensive stuff in the browser. How are you dealing with performance issues in Javascript? Have you tried using Rust or C++ with WebAssembly for parts of your apps? How did you make 2d/3d rendering faster? Would you want to use something like Zaplib?

Webviz is a great tool. Just drag the .bag file onto the browser window and you can start viewing the data.

Webviz is actually open source for the most part. https://webviz.io

U can try https://webviz.io/ or https://foxglove.dev/

Cruise | Software Engineer | San Francisco, Seattle, or REMOTE | VISA acceptable | https://www.getcruise.com

Cruise is building the world’s most advanced, self-driving vehicles to safely connect people to the places, things, and experiences they care about. We believe self-driving vehicles will help save lives, reshape cities, give back time in transit, and restore freedom of movement for many.

I'm an engineering manager hiring specifically for the Webviz (http://webviz.io/) team. I'm looking for frontend engineers who want to make fast, beautiful browser-based visualizations of the car using WebGL, WASM and Javascript.

Much of the work that we do on this team is open-sourced (check out the code at https://github.com/cruise-automation/webviz). Cruise vehicles produce mountains of data; we have to visualize it in dozens of different ways at a high frame rate. We recently built a Javascript object proxy that wraps all of our input binary data in an object-like interface that only parses data on access, so that we can limit garbage collection pressure and improve our frame rate. If this kind of project sounds interesting, you might enjoy working on Webviz!

Reach out directly to me if you're interested in the above (open to associate/senior/staff levels), or if you have any questions about Cruise.

PS - for those of you who have seen or used Webviz, Foxglove may look familiar. Some of our team previously worked on Webviz at Cruise, and we reused much of their code, although it has been heavily refactored, several new features added, and we have more coming soon.

Given our team's collective proficiency within the React ecosystem, we decided to leverage this expertise for our project. Initially, we contemplated utilizing Next.js; however, due to the limited practical experience with this technology among key engineers and the pressing timeline to develop the first prototype, we opted for a Single Page Application(SPA) approach. For bundling, we selected Vite, primarily due to its super fast build times, simplicity of configuration, and potential for a nearly seamless transition to server-side rendering.

We are continuing to add new project templates for various types of projects, and we've recently created one for the infamous combination of React with Vite tooling.

Vite focuses on providing an extremely fast development server and workflow speed in web development. It uses its own ES module imports during development, speeding up the startup time.

Vite and Next.js are both top 5 modern development framework right now. They are both great depending on your use case so we’ll discuss 4 areas: Architecture, main features, developer experience and production readiness. After learning about these we’ll have a better idea of which one is best for your project.

import { defineConfig } from 'vite' import react from '@vitejs/plugin-react-swc' import path from 'path' // https://vitejs.dev/config/ export default defineConfig({ plugins: [react()], server: { port: 3000 }, css: { devSourcemap: true }, resolve: { alias: { '~': path.resolve(__dirname, './src') } } })

I am currently utilizing Vite:

Homepage: https://vitejs.dev/

Without any adding any dependencies you can connect react props to raw css at runtime with nothing but css variables (aka "custom properties"). If you add CSS modules on top you don't have to worry about affecting the global scope so components created in this way can be truly modular and transferrable. I use this with vite.

Little confused as to why it has vite in it‘s name, it seems unrelated to https://vitejs.dev/

it says in their docs that they recommend Vite https://vitejs.dev/

it goes like this.

1. you create a repo folder, you cd into it.

2. you create a client template using vite which can be plain typescript, or uses frameworks such as react or vue, at https://vitejs.dev/guide/

3. you cd in that client directory, you npm install, then you npm run dev, it should show you that it works at localhost:5173

4. you follow the instructions on your url, you do npm install @web3modal/wagmi @wagmi/core @wagmi/connectors viem

5. you follow the further instructions.

> It seems like this is for npm or yarn to pull from a remote repository maintained by @wagmi for instance. But then what?

you install the wagmi modules, then you import them in your js code, those code can run upon being loaded or upon user actions such as button clicks

> Do I just symlink to the node_modules directory somehow? Use browserify? Or these days I'd use webpack or whatever the cool kids are using these days?

no need for those. browserify is old school way of transpiling commonjs modules into browser-compatible modules. webpack is similar. vite replaces both webpack and browserify. vite also uses esbuild and swc under the hood which replaces babel.

> I totally get how node package management works ... for NODE. But all these client-side JS projects these days have docs that are clearly for the client-side but the ES2015 module examples they show seem to leave out all instructions for how to actually get the files there, as if it's obvious.

pretty much similar actually. except on client-side, you have src and dist folders. when you run "npm run build" vite will compile the src dir into dist dir. the outputs are the static files that you can serve with any http server such as npx serve, or caddy, or anything really.

> What gives? And finally, what exactly does "browserify" do these days, since I think Node supports both ES modules and and CJS modules? I also see sometimes UMD universal modules

vite supports both ecmascript modules and commonjs modules. but these days you'll just want to stick with ecmascript which makes your code consistently use import and export syntax, and you get the extra benefit of it working well with your vscode intellisense.

> In short, I'm a bit confused how to use package management properly with browsers in 2024: https://modern-web.dev/guides/going-buildless/es-modules/

if people want plain js there is unpkg.com and esm.sh way, but the vite route is the best for you as it's recommended and tested by the providers of your modules.

> And finally, if you answer this, can you spare a word about typescript? Do we still need to use Babel and Webpack together to transpile it to JS, and minify and tree-shake, or what?

I recommend typescript, as it gives you better type-safety and better intellisense, but it really depends. If you're new to it, it can slow you down at first. But as your project grows you'll eventually see the value of it. In vite there are options to scaffold your project in pure js or ts.