vlime
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7 months ago | 8 days ago | |
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MIT License | MIT License |
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vlime
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Does anyone use vim for lisp dev?
https://github.com/vlime/vlime works for me fine
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Developing Common Lisp using GNU Screen, Rlwrap, and Vim
You should try out Vlime, it is a bit janky but it beats copy-pasting into a terminal any day.
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Portacle - Does it have auto indent?
Maybe you should stick to one new thing at a time. Vim is more than capable of handling Common Lisp. Look at Slimv and Vlime for vim-style SLIME. Focus on CL first. You can come back to Doom / Emacs later.
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What is to go-to environment on Windows for Common LISP development?
Neovim works just fine. I use Neoterm to send-to-repl, here's what my config looks like. Your other options include vlime and slimv. I switched to neoterm because it's simple, explicit, and doesn't create unpredictable windows. Works for any other language just as well.
- Why Lisp?
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Are there plugins for Neovim that don't exist, that should exist, in your opinion?
A proper Neovim client for Slime or Sly. The closest is Vlime, but its UI is really janky.
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Common Lisp vs Racket
Join me vim brother and don't settle for forcing yourself to use emacs while developing in CL when you don't have to! You even have two vim options! https://github.com/kovisoft/slimv and https://github.com/vlime/vlime with a great comparison of the two: https://susam.net/blog/lisp-in-vim.html
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Lisp programming configuration for neovim
If you're interested more in Common Lisp, there's both vlime and vim-slime however I don't have any experience with them.
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Noob looking to learn Vim on Windows for writing/programming/notes
I think I'll dig at vimtutor within a few days, then. I've seen it mentioned a few times already, so now's a good time I reckon. Like you said, I'll be avoiding plugins, but with the guide I referenced, vlime is mentioned. You don't think that'll be too problematic on Windows, do you? I recall seeing that plenty of plugins don't work outside of linux. Thanks again, btw!
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What would you consider a modern lisp workflow/toolchain?
That's quite a tough question because different people appreciate different things about Emacs. Personally I use Neovim as my text editor with Vlime for live Common Lisp integration (works with Vim as well). Vlime uses the same backend as Slime for Emacs, so the features should be the same, even if the interface is different. I know there is also Slima for Atom, but I have never used Atom, so no idea how well it works.
Fennel
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Did we lose our way in making efficient software? – ~30 MB doc file vs. browser
It's interesting: minimal software is out there, but folks don't tend to choose it. I spend a fair amount of time thinking about how to be conservative in my dependencies, and this encourages a lightweight stack that tends to perform pretty well. These days, I'm favoring tools like Lua, SQLite, Fennel[0], Althttpd[1], Fossil[2], and the Mako Server[3] and find that great, lightweight, stable, efficient software is to be had, for free, but you have to go a bit off the beaten path. This isn't stuff you hear about on Stack Overflow.
In terms of frontend, which the post focuses on (Google Docs and a 30MB doc), I guess I'm conflicted. While I tend to favor native apps + web pages, I'm also a daily Tiddlywiki user, and I really think web apps have their place (heck, one idea I'm working on is a lightweight local server that lets you run web apps like Tiddlywiki). But without a doubt, Tiddlywiki is more resource intensive than Emacs (my go-to for notetaking when I'm not on TW). My tab for a 6MB Tiddlywiki file uses 155MB of RAM, and my (heavily customized, dozens of open buffers) Emacs session uses 88MB. So I do think the author has a good point.
[0]: https://fennel-lang.org/
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Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
Eh it's not just luajit and luajit didn't create that problem either. It's a symptom of lua actually succeeding at its design goal of being easily embedded as an extension language. A significant number of incompatible runtimes are more popular than the most recent puc lua, including I believe the older official lua 5.2 released in 2011.
I've done a fair bit of professional lua development and I don't think I've ever written standalone up-to-date puc lua except maybe for some tooling & scripts. It's such a small language and used in such a way that the runtime, distribution method, and available APIs have much more impact on your use (and compatibility) than the version.
Virtually everyone shipping a lua environment is also shipping changes to it that make it a unique target, if only extensions to the standard library. This is why I think syntax layer-only approach like fennel's is the correct choice for improving on lua. It mirrors lua's runtime semantics exactly, and allows you to access the implementation peculiars on their own terms and so can just be run on time of any lua system.
https://fennel-lang.org
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LÖVE: a framework to make 2D games in Lua
Just learned about https://fennel-lang.org/ , could have probably used that as well to avoid Lua.
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The Bipolar Lisp Programmer
> I’m positive that there is a Lispy language out there (actually in existence, or the aether) that is appropriate for embedded work, but the constraints of the target make it difficult to envision.
Perhaps Fennel* fits the bill?
* https://fennel-lang.org/
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The Future of the Vim Project
I've also seen neovim plugins written in fennel [0], so if you want something lispy, that's possible now.
[0]: a Lisp that compiles to Lua, https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel
- Qual a linguagem que vocês mais gostam de programar?
- Can I use elixir as the scripting language of my game engine?
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TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
Something similar: Fennel (https://fennel-lang.org/) is a lisp that compiles into Lua, which nvim can use as plugins, so you can write nvim plugins in a lisp. Aniseed (https://github.com/Olical/aniseed) makes this really easy.
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Announcing automation-service: write and schedule home automation scripts in Lua
If you want a more FP language on the Lua runtime, you might be interested in Fennel. I wrote a post about adding Fennel compiler to a hslua interpreter a while back, which might be useful for you.
- 916 Days of Emacs
What are some alternatives?
slimv - Official mirror of Slimv versions released on vim.org
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm
sidebar.nvim - A generic and modular lua sidebar for Neovim
urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua
paredit.vim - Paredit Mode: Structured Editing of Lisp S-expressions
nvim-lspconfig - Quickstart configs for Nvim LSP
info.vim
Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32
Vim - The official Vim repository
lua-languages - Languages that compile to Lua
neovim - Vim-fork focused on extensibility and usability
webassembly-lua - Write and compile WebAssembly code with Lua