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vgtk
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Rust: State of GUI, December 2022 – KAS blog
A pretty fun Rust GUI experienc is vgtk[0], which is doing a bunch of macro magic to give a "we're coding in React" vibe to GTK+. I don't really have a specific thing I want to code in a native GUI at the moment but if I did I think this would be the most tempting for me.
[0]: https://github.com/bodil/vgtk/
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Code bloat has become astronomical
a stateful GUI markup language is react. it is not yet the case that react-like code works for desktop, though there are cool examples like vgtk https://github.com/bodil/vgtk
- Vgtk - A declarative desktop ui framework for rust built on gtk and gtk-rs
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A declarative desktop UI framework for Rust built on GTK and GTK-rs
from what i gather from https://github.com/bodil/vgtk/issues/78, you're better off using realm
I'm always curious to see these projects, because I've been experimenting with a React renderer for the GJS bindings for a while. It's frustrating because GTK "feels like" it's so close to being able to support a vdom/declarative paradigm, but the devil is in the details.
The simple use-cases like "Window > Box > Label" are easy to get going. The more complex widgets like Stack/Grid/TreeView ... aren't.
This project seems to have the same issue: https://github.com/bodil/vgtk/issues/40
This is made more difficult now GTK4 has removed the Container base class, so there's no longer a unified interface for adding children (although it had caveats in the first place).
I totally get the GTK view that (presumably) specific widgets are more intuitive with specific add/remove APIs (like the grid - one doesn't really "appendChild" to a grid).
It just feels like: if there was a consistent container API comparable to the web's appendChild approach, a vdom/declarative approach would require only a very light wrapper. Without it, I keep coming back to the idea of implementing wrapper widgets that expose that consistent API instead. And that's just not something I want to maintain - effectively duplicating each GTK widget for the purpose of making it fit into a tree model.
It's also a problem of trying to wrap richer functionality (pack_start and pack_end) into a simpler set (append only) of course.
So I don't know exactly what my point is :) Perhaps cautioning the reader that the simplicity of the approach comes with a catch.
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Hacker News top posts: May 28, 2022
A declarative desktop UI framework for Rust built on GTK and GTK-rs\ (23 comments)
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Newbie here. Just finished reading the book. What now?
Build your own To-do List Application in Rust: https://bodil.lol/vgtk/
Azul
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AvaloniaUI: Create Multi-Platform Apps with .NET
Not sure what you mean but WebRender powers Firefox which definitely works on the desktop.
You can use it to build desktop UI frameworks - see for example https://azul.rs/
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Servo, the parallel browser engine written in Rust
I'd been wanting to see this, preferably with JS being optional, and just allowing direct DOM access.
I initially thought this was what Azul was, but it's only just using Servo's WebRender compositor, and rolls its own CSS parser, DOM, and layout engine, so it doesn't benefit from most of the work done on Servo, and supports less CSS features.
https://github.com/fschutt/azul
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Is RUST a good choice for building web browsers?
Both Servo and Fifefox make use of webrender, which is an awesome piece of tech and is well suited to render a web page. Some GUI projects attempted to use webrender directly as well, like Azul and moxie-native
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Digital Audio Workstation Front End Development Struggles
> But no one is saying, "Hey I have a CSS 2.1 compliant rasterizer and compositor that you can use in your C++ or Rust environment!" are they?
There’s actually quite a lot of interesting work going on in that general space, has been in various forms for some years. A couple that immediately spring to mind:
• Azul <https://azul.rs/> builds on WebRender, as used in Firefox. I haven’t looked at it for a few years, but it looks to have grown quite interesting now.
• Blitz <https://github.com/DioxusLabs/blitz> is based on from-scratch implementations of CSS layout and rendering, and wgpu rendering. It’s not usable yet, but is a very interesting concept. If one happens to be familiar with React Native: it’s kinda like that, or React Native Web.
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XUL Layout has been removed from Firefox
Azul[1] was my solution for that, it was based on WebRender. I didn't get around to finish it in 2019, but I will work on it this year, maybe I'll get it to be mature enough to post it here.
> wide portability (at least Windoze, Linux, MacOS, iOS, Android, embedded: Azul is Windows-Linux-Mac only, don't underestimate the effort to properly port something to a new platform
> "though a Vulkan-based renderer can be made to run pretty much anywhere": WebRender is OpenGL + using software rendering as a fallback
> a permissive open source license: MPL-2.0
> a C interface/wrap to allow a wide programming language binding support: yes
> and an easily extensible and themable set of basic widgets: also yes
[1] https://azul.rs/
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Rust GUI framework
There is Iced which is used by system76 in Pop!_OS, Druid [DISCONTINUED], GTK-rs, Relm, Azul and Tauri. Personally I would use Tauri for its speed using the OS's native web render, documentation of use with things such as Sveltekit and the ability to make UI's using JS, CSS and HTML. Tauri similarly to Electron whilst being far faster. But its up to personal preference really. There aren't any solid "go to" options at the moment.
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Servo 2023 Roadmap
Sounds like you may be interested in azul not exactly servo based but on projects that originate from servo. Also this is not a typical WebView, for example it does not use HTML but uses DOM to define it's UI, and there is no JS engine in there.
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Help with webrender.
Azul uses webrender. But your "glue" program is like half the web browser. You also need a vector graphics library to render websites. Webrender only does boxes, but not complex SVG paths. Once the plan was to use pathfinder, but mozilla fired the dev and they still using an old version of chromium's skia for that.
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Rust: State of GUI, December 2022 – KAS blog
One day I'll get around to finish my library Azul [1]. Hopefully.
[1] https://azul.rs/
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Pure Rust GUI Landscape
azul
What are some alternatives?
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