trial VS py4cl2

Little Spark - made with Trial

The engine is called Trial. https://github.com/shirakumo/trial.

I don't know what the situation is like for 3D game programming in CL. Shinmera recently kickstarted a game but it's 2D I think and I don't know if his engine (https://github.com/Shirakumo/trial) does 3D. But regardless of what you're using, going into learning how to program while also trying to learn how to use the game engines available in the CL world will probably be a recipe for getting overwhelmed and discouraged. I'd recommend going through the Steve Losh post first and reading A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation and/or Practical Common Lisp to get some solid general familiarity with using CL. Both are available online for free. You can also browse through the Cookbook: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/

For graphics there's a lot of different variants and options. I use Trial, but that doesn't have any docs yet, I'm afraid.

Kandria and Eternia both are built on top of the game engine Trial, which I and a few others at Shirakumo have been working on for some years now. Trial itself makes use of a bunch of lower level libraries like cl-opengl, GLFW, pngload, harmony, etc. but a huge amount of the codebase was written by me. If you're interested in its development, I recommend hopping by the #shirakumo channel on the Freenode IRC network. I'd be happy to answer questions there!

A good way to do it is to keep a staging area of sorts that keeps track of the manually allocated objects and their state. When you allocate you batch all objects to allocate together and then execute the load in one go, updating the records in the staging area. Then, when you're ready to switch to a different scene or whatever, you diff the staging area against the current set of objects that need to be live and deallocate everything else in one go.

I... recently got that working: https://github.com/digikar99/py4cl2/tree/master/cffi - Yes, CFFI! Yes, passing CL array data by reference!

I ended up using a fair bit of matplotlib through college and with colleagues. I too don't want to use python, but I also don't like throwing away its libraries, and I'm too lazy to invest in other* plotting ecosystems. In effect, I use up using matplotlib through py4cl/2.

Note that it is not my aim to replace the python ecosystem; I think that is far too lofy a goal to be of any good. My original intention was to interoperate with python through py4cl/2 or the likes, but felt that one needs a Common Lisp library for "small" operations, while "large" operations can be offloaded to python libraries through py4cl/2.

Python: Blender and Panda3D (game engine used for Disney's Toontown way back when) are both scriptable with Python. I've been able to successfully call Panda from Py4CL2 (thanks digikar for the help with that), but I have not tried with Blender yet. I think it's doable.

While you are at it I may as well mention https://github.com/digikar99/py4cl2

If performance is absolutely not a concern, then third option is using python libraries through py4cl/2. To put it differently, if calling python from lisp is not the bottleneck, then this is a feasible option.

py4cl2 (not py4cl!) author here. From the v2.9.0 docs:

py4cl and py4cl2 represent a fairly pragmatic example of method 1, using an OS child process to communicate back and forth with your python code. Python is fairly popular and well-enabled with libraries, so you can delegate things to python that leverage those libraries.

If you can structure your code so that data de/serialization is not a bottleneck, then you could access the python libraries using py4cl/2.