toml VS tanka

Black uses by default the pyproject.toml file. This file contains a section for each different tool we want to use. The use of a configuration file like pyproject.toml is quite a good choice and helps the contributors to use the same tools and configurations you're using.

> I don't think even though TOML has some official spec

Read it on https://toml.io/ (Full spec on upper-right… with its evolutions up to final 1.00 version).

ini2toml which automatically translates .ini/.cfg files into TOML

toml 1.1 will allow non-ascii in keys (and multi-line inline tables)

See https://github.com/toml-lang/toml/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md

GitHub - toml-lang/toml: Tom's Obvious, Minimal Language

See https://github.com/toml-lang/toml/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md

> I still think it's the best format out there.

What do you think of https://toml.io ?

TOML built-in support

I would recommend implementing a similar API to Grafana Tanka: https://tanka.dev

When you "synthesise", the returned value should be an array or an object.

1. If it's an object, check if it has an `apiVersion` and `kind` key. If it does, yield that as a kubernetes object and do not recurse.

Maybe you'd like jsonnet: https://jsonnet.org/

I find it particularly useful for configurations that often have repeated boilerplate, like ansible playbooks or deploying a bunch of "similar-but" services to kubernetes (with https://tanka.dev).

Dhall is also quite interesting, with some tradeoffs: https://dhall-lang.org/

A few years ago I did a small comparison by re-implementing one of my simpler ansible playbooks: https://github.com/retzkek/ansible-dhall-jsonnet

- validation is often impractical (at least identifying exactly where the error is… I’m looking at you Helm!)

Unrelated to OP, but you can leverage Tanka to extend helm charts with functionality not provided by upstream.

https://tanka.dev/

Although jsonette might be considered more complex Tanka is a great alternative for k8s config management.

At Grafana Labs we're using jsonnet at scale, while being a powerful functional language it is also excellent for rendering JSON/YAML config. We have developed Tanka[0] to work with Kubernetes, for other purposes I can recommend this course[1] (authored by me).

[0] https://tanka.dev/

[1] https://jsonnet-libs.github.io/jsonnet-training-course/

If you're hitting the limits of Kustomize, maybe look at Tanka as well.

Yes, try Tanka.

yes. basically. and this is a path that multiple people are trying to solve. e.g. AWS CDK8s, https://tanka.dev/, etc

Compose would be awesome.

http://tanka.dev

(Note I work for Grafana Labs who fund Tanka and use it for all production config)