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tinywm
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Fedora Workstation 41 to No Longer Install Gnome X.org Session by Default
> Nobody's requiring Wayland.
Yet. Defaulting to it is one step on the path towards removing support for X and independent window managers forever.
I deeply, deeply care about running an independent window manager. A minimal X window manager is a page of code: https://github.com/mackstann/tinywm/blob/master/tinywm.c (yes, plus xlib); a minimal Wayland compositor is tens of thousands of lines of code.
> contrary to your statements, it's perfectly ready for prime time
These comments are full of folks mentioning issues. Wayland does not support my window manager; thus it is demonstrably not ready for prime time for me.
> Wayland is the way forward
It may actually be. I’m not as opposed to Wayland as I may sound! But do you understand how you and other Wayland advocates sound — like advocates? ‘Wayland is the way forward’; ‘there's no future for Xorg’; these things are arguably true, but they are also rather cruel to say (a bit like ‘inevitably you and everyone will die’: it really is true, but it’s also not at all a nice thing to say).
I do think that Wayland or something very like it may be the way forward, but it needs to be an evolution, not a revolution. I know that the party line is that that’s not possible, but I suspect that rather than not possible it is just very hard. It’s always easier to greenfield, and it is always hell to be 100% backwards compatible.
But that’s what it needs to be.
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RubyWM – an X11 window manager in pure Ruby
Hah. I didn't think this was quite HN worthy at this point - the code is still a mess, and has plenty of bugs. It was however the wm I actually use since I got frustrated with bspwm and did a very minimalist rewrite of TinyWM [1] in Ruby [2] and expanded it from there. It was painful the first few days until I'd had time to add multiple desktops and the start of a tiling mode. But at this point, it's "almost" pleasant for me.
The warnings are real, though, apart from the initial hyperbole - this is likely to break for you in all kinds of horrible ways still. I use very few applications beyond (my own) terminal, (my own) polybar replacement, (my own) file manager, and a browser, and so once Chrome and my own apps mostly started working ok I've had very little incentive to make sure it behaves nicely with anything else and I know the distinction between different EWMH window types is incomplete and broken - just not in ways that usually affect my own use.
[1] https://github.com/mackstann/tinywm/blob/master/tinywm.c
[2] https://gist.github.com/vidarh/1cdbfcdf3cfd8d25a247243963e55...
- What’s something simple but interesting I can build with c
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WM like i3wm
picking a random bare bones wm tinywm
- TinyWM – A tiny window manager in around 50 lines of C
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I cannot find the desktop environment for me
Or Check out TinyWM. Its just a few lines of code.
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WM/DE iceberg
TinyWM
penrose
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Is there a way to create a WM with winit?
writing an X11 window manager is ... extremely tedious. have a look at https://github.com/sminez/penrose .
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[Media] shrs: a shell that is configurable and extensible in rust
Hey everyone 👋 ! I'm currently working on a rust library for building and configuring your own shell! It's inspired by projects like xmonad and penrose where the configuration of the program is done in code. This means that for example, instead of using Bash's arcane syntax for configuring the prompt, it can be configured instead using a rust builder pattern! The project itself is still at a very young stage, so there are plenty of bugs and unimplemented features. However, some things that are (partially) implemented are:
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if I wanted to make a Tiling Window Manager in Rust, how would I go about it?
https://github.com/sminez/penrose https://sminez.github.io/penrose/
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Its not opinion. Its fact
im not sure weather or not i should mention penrose an dwm here :D you can configure even more than with kde (and my setup ended up way beyond anything recognisable)
- Penrose 0.3.0 release announcement
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Building a Tiling Window Manager with Rust and Penrose
There are many existing tiling-window managers with i3 probably being the most popular choice for linux systems. These window managers can depend on extensive configuration files or in the case of dwm, git patching or C programming. Penrose takes a different approach in that Penrose is not a window manager. Penrose is a high-level rust library that you use to build your own window manager. This gives us many options for customization while also giving us all the advantages that come with writing rust code.
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I wrote an x11 tiling window manager inspired by DWM that I've been using for a few months now. If you're using x11 and want to try out a new tiling window manager I'd love your feedback!
Mostly non-dynamic except for wm-specific actions. What kind of events are we talking about? I think that if we're talking about something that on a more low-level exposes x11 events penrose is a better bet. That being said, exposing something like:
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Is there a good tutorial for writing an X11 Tiling Window manager in Rust?
You might find Penrose interesting. Basically a rust library that you can use to write your own X11 window manager without needing to deal with a lot of the lower level details of X11.
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Penrose window manager issue
https://github.com/sminez/penrose which I'm really enjoying so far.
What are some alternatives?
chadwm - Making dwm as beautiful as possible!
wayland-rs - Rust implementation of the wayland protocol (client and server).
dwm-xcb - A port of dwm to XCB.
leftwm - A tiling window manager for Adventurers
sowm - An itsy bitsy floating window manager (220~ sloc!).
wmfocus - Visually focus windows by label
wlroots - A modular Wayland compositor library
hello-wayland - A hello world Wayland client (mirror)
xidlehook - GitLab: https://gitlab.com/jD91mZM2/xidlehook
x11rb - X11 bindings for the rust programming language, similar to xcb being the X11 C bindings