Fedora Workstation 41 to No Longer Install Gnome X.org Session by Default

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  • obs-vkcapture

    OBS Linux Vulkan/OpenGL game capture

  • I can't speak for Chrome nor VMWare, but Firefox and OBS have received "Wayland native" screen capturing functionality, through XDG portals and Pipewire, as far as I'm aware.

    As a side-note, I've recently discovered a really cool project[0] that enables incredibly fast screen capture for OpenGL and Vulkan applications, mostly tailored to games. Tried it with a bunch of stuff and it works much better than both X's and Pipewire's screen grabbing. I can actually capture videos at my monitor's native refresh rate (144Hz).

    [0]: https://github.com/nowrep/obs-vkcapture

  • tinywm

    The tiniest window manager.

  • > Nobody's requiring Wayland.

    Yet. Defaulting to it is one step on the path towards removing support for X and independent window managers forever.

    I deeply, deeply care about running an independent window manager. A minimal X window manager is a page of code: https://github.com/mackstann/tinywm/blob/master/tinywm.c (yes, plus xlib); a minimal Wayland compositor is tens of thousands of lines of code.

    > contrary to your statements, it's perfectly ready for prime time

    These comments are full of folks mentioning issues. Wayland does not support my window manager; thus it is demonstrably not ready for prime time for me.

    > Wayland is the way forward

    It may actually be. I’m not as opposed to Wayland as I may sound! But do you understand how you and other Wayland advocates sound — like advocates? ‘Wayland is the way forward’; ‘there's no future for Xorg’; these things are arguably true, but they are also rather cruel to say (a bit like ‘inevitably you and everyone will die’: it really is true, but it’s also not at all a nice thing to say).

    I do think that Wayland or something very like it may be the way forward, but it needs to be an evolution, not a revolution. I know that the party line is that that’s not possible, but I suspect that rather than not possible it is just very hard. It’s always easier to greenfield, and it is always hell to be 100% backwards compatible.

    But that’s what it needs to be.

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  • vscodium flatpak fonts are already fine; IME vscodium works with font scaling fine out of the box. There's a vscode flatpak issue: "Feature: add optional Wayland support" https://github.com/flathub/com.visualstudio.code/issues/471#...

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39625917#39637408

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