teams-for-linux VS wayland-keylogger

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents:

> Acorn

GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can.

> Keyboard Maestro

GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The OSes are still mostly terminal-first (one of the big complaints, actually), and that translates into the DEs and Applications. A keyboard automation is just a sequence of commands.

This is probably one of the few areas where Linux almost definitely beats macOS or Windows.

> OnniGraffle

There's a large swathe of diagramming tools in Linux. I can't speak on them directly.

> Alfred App

Yep, both KDE and Gnome are able to handle this task as well as Alfred. Like automation, this is probably an area Linux will be able to shine above macOS.

> MS Office

LibreOffice would be the common alternative.

> MS Teams

They used to have an official client. They now recommend you create a PWA, and there are some unofficial clients that do pretty much that:

https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux

This seems to be the route they'll be going all around, similar to slack (web + an electron app).

> I test LLMs locally.

LLMs run fine on Linux, but you will be limited to about 16GB on the VRAM side. Though, you could technically use Asahi + Apple Silicon as the support matured if you want.

Most of these are open source applications, with cludgy UIs/warts and all; and aren't really designed by teams with UX masters, so operate oddly and require relearning. But if you were interested in making the move, they're options.

I've never used this but apparently this wrapper is useful for linux people: https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux

Have you tried an unofficial electron client?

I use https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux . It's "just" a wrapper around the PWA but a very decent one at that.

Unofficial and not Microsoft supported, but might be an alternative to Microsoft's official PWA. How do the two compare in your experience with them?

You can try the unofficial client Teams for Linux. It's available as a Flatpak and I didn't have any issues sharing my screen with it. https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux

This client works well for me: https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux

There is also: https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux

Intercepting inputs meant for other apps is easy and it's already been done via LD_PRELOAD.

And all of this just for supposedly better "security", that can easily circumvented with trivial attacks.

Not in the same sense that there's a keylogger included with Windows, no. It's that it's easier to do on Xorg as opposed to Wayland. This isn't to say that it's impossible, however.

You can have keylogger on Wayland also without root priviledge. It's trivial: https://github.com/Aishou/wayland-keylogger

> you can still deliver different experiences at runtime — but you’re not likely to have the superuser privileges needed to run a leylogger or read ~/.ssh/id_rsa, etc, at that point.

Keyloggers are trivial to do in userspace Linux via LD_PRELOAD attacks[0], and typically your user account has permission to read ~/.ssh/id_rsa.

[0] https://github.com/Aishou/wayland-keylogger

I have read that bare Linux is totally insecure (https://github.com/Aishou/wayland-keylogger) unless you use some means of sandboxing. That's why I have been reading a lot about firejail, AppArmor, Tomoyo, etc.