simh VS min-sized-rust

It sounds like there was a config option available to disable the signature addition to the image file ( https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/1059#issuecomment-108689... ). I could see a benefits for having an embedded image signature for preservation and corruption detection issues.

I don't think complaining about the design is toxic, but recruiting uninvolved people on twitter, and harassing out of ban certainly is. Also reading the bug thread it seems the person with the issue wasn't the same as the one who instigated the harasment. (https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/1059#issuecomment-108675...)

Perhaps, however, SIMH (http://simh.trailing-edge.com/, https://opensimh.org/) also calls itself a simulator rather than an emulator. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess!

You can get emulators for the machine: SIMH

I looked into this recently too, given the large amount of instructions at https://github.com/simh/simh/blob/master/0readme_ethernet.txt I decided it was too much bother for now.

In case anyone was wondering:

> The de facto emulator for most old computers is Simh https://github.com/simh/simh. The size and complexity of the individual machine apps is such that a direct port to a memory limited system is not feasible.

VAX has its die hard fans, and the historical value of the VAX and what it did to shape our computing world can't be overstated. As both a learning tool and a way to preserve history, simh and VAX emulation are wonderfully accessible. VAX running modern NetBSD does an excellent job illustrating where performance regressions happen and where bad assumptions are made. None of these are compelling reasons to target a new toolchain to a classic architecture by themselves, but the interest is there.

A long time ago you posted a suggestion in the original SIMH GitHub as an issue to have Interlan NI1010A added. https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/380

https://github.com/simh/simh

Richard Cornwell has implemented the IBM 701, IBM 704, IBM 7010/1410, IBM 7070/7074, IBM 7080/702/705/7053 and IBM 7090/7094/709/704 simulators.

This is a good guide on building small Rust binaries: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust

This talks about going to extreme lengths on making the smallest Rust binary possible, 400 bytes when it was written, https://darkcoding.net/software/a-very-small-rust-binary-ind...

The thing is, you lose a lot of nice features when you do this, like panic unwinding, debug symbols, stdlib… for kernel and some embedded development it’s definitely important, but for most use cases, does it matter?

Oh it was 137, haha. I will link you to this older comment of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29408906

See also https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust

Are you sure? If so then this is awesome news, but I'm a bit confused; the commit in that min-sized-rust repo adding `build-std` to the README was merged in August 2021: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust/pull/30

Are you saying that at that point the feature still hadn't "landed in Rust nightly" until recently? If so then what's the difference between a feature just being available in Rust nightly, vs having "landed"?

Rust binaries are by default nowhere close to 500MB. If they are not small enough for you, you can try https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust. By avoiding the formatting machinery and using `panic_immediate_abort` you can get about the size of C binaries.

A useful reference: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust

That must be without stripping. Also there are ways to reduce binary size. See e.g. [min-sized-rust](https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust). I've gotten stripped binaries of small cli utils less than 400KiB without doing anything special, less than 150 KiB by customizing profile settings and compressing with upx, and less than 30 KiB by replacing the std with the libc as the link shows. Haven't tried with fltk though...

This is not quite what you're asking, but it does also address the underlying concern: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust