shuttle VS Zulip

Moreover, I especially like where Rust is right now in the web space. It really feels like there’s a lot of smart people working on the next generation of web development tools - it feels like the place to be. There are a range of great open-source web dev tools that are just reaching critical levels of maturity. Axum, which I used to build Prodzilla, feels ready for out of the box web dev, and is crazy-performant, as I write about later. More recently available is Loco, a Rails-like framework for building web applications in Rust that's picking up steam. And in dev-tooling and hosting there’s Shuttle, a 1-line hosting solution for Rust backends.

cargo-shuttle is Shuttle's own CLI for interacting with the Shuttle platform. Within the src folder, you will be able to get a better sense of how you can organise your folders/files for a larger CLI project for a live service. There is also use of async here with tokio, so if you're interested in learning how to get started with using clap with async services (for example setting up an async client for a database service), this would be a perfect opportunity to learn to do so!

https://github.com/shuttle-hq/shuttle/tree/main/services/shuttle-axum https://docs.rs/shuttle-axum/0.34.1/src/shuttle_axum/lib.rs.html#1-78

It would be great if there are some kind of code snippet on the README that really demonstrate the "ship backends without writing infra" feature that I think is one of the unique feature of shuttle. I remember seeing one on the official website (https://shuttle.rs) that left me impressed.

Shuttle is currently accepting entries for a competition, with the best projects being featured at our booth at the [EuroRust](eurorust.eu/) conference this year.

Reading here https://shuttle.rs may be nice to try for the future.

At Shuttle, we've teamed up again with Stefan Baumgartner, the organizer of Rust Linz and author of 'Typescript in 50 lessons', to host a free workshop titled "Rust for Javascript Developers: Building apps that utilize LLMs".

The community being built at https://shuttle.rs is extremely open and welcoming. I’ve yet to do anything on the main code base, but I’ve helped with the docs.

At Shuttle we’ve teamed up with Stefan Baumgartner, the organizer of Rust Linz, to create a newsletter series that takes a slightly different approach towards learning Rust.

Zulip — Real-time chat with a unique email-like threading model. The free plan includes 10,000 messages of search history and File storage up to 5 GB. also, it provides a self-hostable open-source version.

(1) Zulip Chat - https://zulip.com/ - seems to be reasonably popular, but more people should know about it

I’ve been using it for over 5 years now [1], and it’s as good as ever. It’s way faster than any other chat app I’ve used. It has a good UI and conversation model. It has a simple and functional API that lets me curl threads and write blog posts based on them.

(only problem is that I Ctrl-+ in my browser to make the font bigger – I think it’s too dense for most people)

(2) re2c regex to state machine compiler - https://re2c.org

A gem from the 90’s, which people have done a great job maintaining and improving (getting Go and Rust target support in the last few years). I started using it in 2016, and used for a new program a few months ago. I came to the conclusion that it should have been built into C, because C has shitty string processing – and Ken Thompson both invented C AND brought regular languages to computing !!

In comparison, treesitter lexers are very low level, fiddly, and error prone. I recently saw dozens of ad hoc fixes to the tree-sitter-bash lexer, which is unsurprising if you look at the structure of the code (manually crawling through backslashes and braces in C).

https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter-bash/blob/master/...

These fixes are definitely appreciated, but I think it indicates a problem with the model itself.

(based on https://lobste.rs/s/endspx/software_you_are_thankful_for#c_y...)

[1] https://www.oilshell.org/blog/2018/04/26.html

A few more truly in the vibe of open source projects not advertising their hosting providers: https://plane.so/ , https://element.io/ , https://www.loomio.com/ , https://zulip.com/ , and it keeps going... Very few open source projects, in the FOSS sense, are advertising their hosting provider.

I was so excited to see this happen!

I'm not a customer of yours, but your blog posts inspired me a lot. Your journey through quitting caffeine is a great and heartening read.

I've got two things to say;

1) Will you consider source-availabling the web portal (app.keygen.sh) too? Some enterprises could use it for easy management/support for custoner's licenses. Although now that I think about it, it could also discourage custom, more suitable implementations for each use-case... I'm torn on this one. I would like to see it available on GitHub too just out of curiosity too. It's very beautiful.

2) For a team + customers' chat, I cannot recommend Zulip enough. It's a joy to use and has the most innovative chat system I've ever seen. https://zulip.com

I hope your business keeps prospering!

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At Zulip, we’re out to build the world’s best collaboration platform, and we’re committed to keeping it 100% open source. Zulip is the only modern team chat app that is designed for both live and asynchronous conversations. Our product serves as the communication hub for businesses, open-source projects, educators and communities around the world.

We're building the next generation of Zulip's mobile apps in Flutter. We're looking for a senior engineer with Flutter experience to join our small core team and help define the future of team chat. Our Flutter prototype is just a few months old, so this is a greenfield opportunity to help shape the app's architecture from early on.

For full details, check out https://zulip.com/jobs/. Apply at [email protected].

Anyways, I'm an internet stranger, not a social media expert. So let me know what you all think. And if we make a discord or zulip or something to make this a reality, let me know and I'd love to help any way I can.