chalk VS intellij-lsp-server

The Rust compiler uses a Prolog-like query language internally for type checking generic requirements and traits: https://github.com/rust-lang/chalk

rust-analyzer already uses chalk (https://github.com/rust-lang/chalk) which should replace the current trait resolver.

Well it's quite easy to come to that conclusion: The code compiles with rustc, which is currently the reference implementation. If rust-analyzer does not match rustc's behavior it's an issue in their implementation. That written it's not that easy to fix as it's related to how rust-analyzer resolves types/traits. rust-analyzer uses chalk for this, which is known to be incomplete/diverging from the RFC'ed behavior. Now one could argue that we can simplify diesel to the point where it works will with rust-analyzer/chalk, but that would result in basically removing core diesel features that exist way longer than rust-analyzer.

> Not all of those things work well in the real world. E.g. logic programming (prolog) is cool but ultimately never really caught on.

It does have its niches though. For example, there is a trait solver for Rust called Chalk that uses a Prolog-inspired language because trait bounds basically define a logic:

https://github.com/rust-lang/chalk

Maybe something in the prolog/datalog direction could be useful? Notably Rust has Chalk to help with trait resolution ("Chalk is a library that implements the Rust trait system, based on Prolog-ish logic rules.")

There has been work to implement part of the Rust typing logic in the Chalk Engine which uses a prolog-ish syntax to describe its rules.

That's something Chalk is trying to tackle.

We probably will see all of them at some point -- polonius is a current effort to make the borrow checker accept more valid programs, in a way that also simplifies the logic and is probably a bit faster than the current NLL system, chalk is an attempt to do a similar thing for the trait system, and cranelift is a project that seeks to replace the LLVM codegen backend. But obviously, these are very large and complex projects that are gonna take some time.

Do Rust developers realize that? Oh, yes, absolutely, that's why we have this:

For me an attempt to write where HashMap: FromIterator and then use new and insert was totally bizzare because currently rustc is pretty primitive and doesn't do super-complex machinery needed to do what you want. Chalk may fix that one day, but it's nowhere near to being ready for inclusion into rustc thus I wouldn't even attempt to do what you tried to do… but that's not something you are supposed to know before reading this book!

I once had the idea of implementing an LSP server by embedding it as an IntelliJ plugin and backgrounding the IDE while doing the actual coding in Emacs.

It kind of worked, but once I stopped needing to use Java for my job it became too much of a hassle to flesh out.

https://github.com/Ruin0x11/intellij-lsp-server

The LSP means every single language server has to reinvent the wheel again and again.

It’d have been much more useful to build bindings for IDEA plugins so they could be integrated into arbitrary editors, especially as the IDEA plugins for most languages even after several years of LSP development are still superior.

All in all it’s like the whole JVM vs. WASM, Java vs Electron story again, with someone deciding to reinvent the wheel but worse.

There’s even bindings like https://github.com/Ruin0x11/intellij-lsp-server or https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/10209-lsp-support to glue it all back together.

It’d have been much simpler to reuse an existing ecosystem from the start.