rust-cpython VS rfcs

I've never used pyo3, just cpython, but the latter at least let me do things like:

And don't forget https://github.com/dgrunwald/rust-cpython to complete the circle

For interoperating with Python, check out PyO3 or rust-cpython. (More generally, see Rust Interop and Are We Extending Yet?)

You probably should learn Rust. Aside from the process of learning new and different languages making you a better programmer, rust-cpython, PyO3, or Interoptopus make it easy to expose Python APIs from your Rust code. (eg. So it's easy to compile the same codebase as both a Python module and a WebAssembly module.)

Have you looked into abi_stable, flapigen, interoptopus, cbindgen, PyO3, or rust-cpython?

Personally, I'm not willing to compromise on my GUI look and feel, so I use PyQt or PySide to write my GUIs against the QWidget API (I'm a KDE user and Python is the only language with mature memory-safe bindings to Qt) and, if the project can be structured with a frontend-backend separation, I use rust-cpython or PyO3 to write a backend in Rust that the Python frontend can import. Sort of using Python/Rust as a QWidget analogue to the QML/C++ architecture promoted for Qt Quick. (Which I don't use because it's still too incomplete on Kubuntu 20.04 LTS.)

also, check out rust-cpython, PyO3, and maturin, among other things. They're really nice options for using Rust for its strengths and Python for its strengths within the same project.

This section uses flapigen to expand the foreign_class macro into many cpython functions as an extension module, and cargo compiles it as a cdylib. If you want to see what that looks like, install cargo-expand and run cargo expand. You'll get a lot of generated rust code.

For Python specifically, In addition to using rust-cpython or PyO3, maturin makes it really comfortable to build, package, and publish Rust code into Python packages and, if your niche doesn't quite fit, there's setuptools-python which might do it.

hlua or rlua are what you want for Lua, rust-cpython or PyO3 for Python, rutie for Ruby, and possibly deno_core for JavaScript.

RFC: Add large language models to Rust

https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3603

Man, SO and family has really gone downhill. That top answer is absolutely terrible. In fact, if you care, you can literally look at the RFC discussion here to see the actual debate: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/582

Basically, `for x in y` is kind of redundant, already sorta-kinda supported by itertools, and there's also a ton of macros that sorta-kinda do it already. It would just be language bloat at this point.

Literally has nothing to do with memory management.

Congrats!

> Similarly, uv does not yet generate a platform-agnostic lockfile. This matches pip-tools, but differs from Poetry and PDM, making uv a better fit for projects built around the pip and pip-tools workflows.

Do you expect to make the higher level workflow independent of requirements.txt / support a platform-agnostic lockfile? Being attached to Rye makes me think "no".

Without being platform agnostic, to me this is dead-on-arrival and unable to meet the "Cargo for Python" aim.

> uv supports alternate resolution strategies. By default, uv follows the standard Python dependency resolution strategy of preferring the latest compatible version of each package. But by passing --resolution=lowest, library authors can test their packages against the lowest-compatible version of their dependencies. (This is similar to Go's Minimal version selection.)

> uv allows for resolutions against arbitrary target Python versions. While pip and pip-tools always resolve against the currently-installed Python version (generating, e.g., a Python 3.12-compatible resolution when running under Python 3.12), uv accepts a --python-version parameter, enabling you to generate, e.g., Python 3.7-compatible resolutions even when running under newer versions.

This is great to see though!

I can understand it being a flag on these lower level, directly invoked dependency resolution operations.

While you aren't onto the higher level operations yet, I think it'd be useful to see if there is any cross-ecosystem learning we can do for my MSRV RFC: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3537

How are you handling pre-releases in you resolution? Unsure how much of that is specified in PEPs. Its something that Cargo is weak in today but we're slowly improving.

In the early days of Rust there was a debate about whether to support "green threads" and in doing that require runtime support. It was actually implemented and included for a time but it creates problems when trying to do library or embedded code. At the time Go for example chose to go that route, and it was both nice (goroutines are nice to write and well supported) and expensive (effectively requires GC etc). I don't remember the details but there is a Rust RFC from when they removed green threads:

https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/0806be4f282144cfcd55b...

I did some more digging. By RFC 899, I believe Alex Crichton meant PR 899 in this repo:

https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/899

Still, no real discussion of why unbuffered stderr.

Rust has had a stable SIMD vector API[1] for a long time. But, it's architecture specific. The portable API[2] isn't stable yet, but you probably can't use the portable API for some of the more exotic uses of SIMD anyway. Indeed, that's true in .NET's case too[3].

Rust does all this SIMD too. It just isn't in the standard library. But the regex crate does it. Indeed, this is where .NET got its SIMD approach for multiple substring search from in the first place[4]. ;-)

You're right that Rust's standard library is conservatively vectorized though[5]. The main thing blocking this isn't the lack of SIMD availability. It's more about how the standard library is internally structured, and the fact that things like substring search are not actually defined in `std` directly, but rather, in `core`. There are plans to fix this[6].

[1]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/arch/index.html

[2]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/simd/index.html

[3]: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/blob/72fae0073b35a404f03c3...

[4]: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/88394#issuecomment-16...

[5]: https://github.com/BurntSushi/memchr#why-is-the-standard-lib...

[6]: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3469