debug VS FrameworkBenchmarks

I've written Ruby for coming up on 20 years, so to be honest I haven't paid attention to what is written on that subject in recent years.

Bundler shouldn't be running inside a trap context, but you might be running into a situation where standard input/output from the actual process triggering your breakpoint has been redirected. In that case, ruby-debug[1] is a good option, as you attach to it from outside[2]. Basically, run "rdbg --open yourscript.rb" and then use rdbg -A from another terminal.

You use Pry remotely too[3] if you prefer.

[1] https://github.com/ruby/debug

[2] https://github.com/ruby/debug?tab=readme-ov-file#remote-debu...

[3] https://github.com/Mon-Ouie/pry-remote

what is ruby debug not able to do that you want it to do?

https://github.com/ruby/debug

a nice ide integrated experience:

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/ruby#_debugging...

https://github.com/ruby/vscode-rdbg

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/editor/debugging

Execution is paused at the breakpoint (which has a little arrow pointing at it). You can then enter commands to the rdbg prompt to control the debugger. For a list of the different commands you can use, visit the documentation for the debug gem.

In 2017, I wrote a toy language called Goby[1] to learn how Ruby works. A few folks contributed quite a bit to it and one of them later referred me to my previous job (as a backend developer).

Fast-forward to 2021, I got interested in debugging tools so I started contributing to the then newly created Ruby debugger[2]. In less than a year I opened more than a hundred PRs and became the 2nd biggest contributor of it. And that eventually landed me a job to work on Ruby's development tools, like LSP servers, REPLs, and of course, the debugger :-)

[1] https://github.com/goby-lang/goby

[2] https://github.com/ruby/debug

Fun fact, Ruby as a single-threaded language is how most people experience it, but Ruby has a rich cooperative multitasking called Fibers that hopefully is getting more exposure, in amongst a bevy of competing implementations and other also-ran concurrency primitives (besides the usual contenders like Threads, Process fork, foreman that just runs several processes alongside one another...)

https://github.com/ruby/debug/issues/486#issuecomment-157531...

If you want to use debugging and multi-threaded or multi-fiber Ruby at once, you can! You just have to get a bit creative. I always refer back to this thread on the Ruby `debug` gem (though the advice applies to any other REPL you can use) about applying a Mutex. You can use the built-in Fiber.blocking to prevent other fibers from running at the same time as yours, or you can use a Mutex to just ensure that you don't hit the debugger multiple times in the same process IO that would mean you've got multiple REPLs all grappling for the StdIO at once.

For a long time Ruby dev who almost never did concurrency unless it was facilitated by the OS, or before being exposed to it directly in other languages like Go, the Ruby "super power" remains intact, it's just a bit more mysterious with the concurrency stuff added. Ruby has amazing diversity in its concurrency tools, which is a nice way of saying "the language authors decided not to pick a king concurrent runtime/winning gem whilst all of the competing implementations were all a bit nascent and un-fully-formed!"

I like the bruno/fiber-scheduler but it looks like it is not the winner. It should be easy to switch to another fibers implementation, I think async is the crown champion now, but I still haven't been motivated to switch - the fiber-scheduler that is named fiber-scheduler has been good enough for me, despite shortcomings!

Debuggers are powerful tools that allow you to step through your code line-by-line, inspecting variables and understanding the flow of execution. Using debuggers is a whole topic unto itself, and getting into the weeds with that would balloon the scope of this post. If you want more information on using them, I recommend reading the README for rdbg. This is the debugging solution for modern Ruby/Rails development. It's in Ruby's stdlib as of v3.1, and Rails 7+ apps include it in the Gemfile by default. I also recommend this section of the Rails guides for exploring how to use the debug gem with Rails applications.

Trace Inspector, a tool that displays Ruby trace logs with pretty UI while debugging in VS Code, has recently landed in debug.gem. debug.gem is a Ruby standard debugger library and the default debugger in Rails. Since debug.gem supports VS Code, you can debug Ruby programs in vscode-rdbg.

For newer versions of Rails (introduced in v7): Debug Gem

While pry is nice Ruby 2.6+ includes the debug gem in the standard library which avoids the need to install another dependency.

Have you tried ruby/debug's catch command? You can do catch Exception to achieve the same effect.

Neat. Thanks for sharing!

Interestingly, may-minihttp is faring very well in the TechEmpower benchmark [1], for whatever those benchmarks are worth. The code is also surprisingly straightforward [2].

[1] https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/

[2] https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks/blob/mast...

ntex was formed after a schism in actix-web and Rust safety/unsafety, with ntex allowing more unsafe code for better performance.

ntex is at the top of the TechEmpower benchmarks, although those benchmarks are not apples-to-apples since each uses its own tricks: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s...

Ruby is slow. Very slow. How much you may ask? https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s... fastest Ruby entry is at 272th place. Sure, top entries tend to have questionable benchmark-golfing implementations, but it gives you a good primer on the overhead imposed by Ruby.

It is also not early 00s anymore, when you pick an interpreted language, you are not getting "better productivity and tooling". In fact, most interpreted languages lag behind other major languages significantly in the form of JS/TS, Python and Ruby suffering from different woes when it comes to package management and publishing. I would say only TS/JS manages to stand apart with being tolerable, and Python sometimes too by a virtue of its popularity and the amount of information out there whenever you need to troubleshoot.

If you liked Go but felt it being a too verbose to your liking, give .NET a try. I am advocating for it here on HN mostly for fun but it is, in fact, highly underappreciated, considered unsexy and boring while it's anything but after a complete change of trajectory in the last 3-5 years. It is actually the* stack people secretly want but simply don't know about because it is bundled together with Java in the public perception.

*productive CLI tooling, high performance, works well in a really wide range of workloads from low to high level, by far the best ORM across all languages and back-end framework that is easier to work with than Node.JS while consuming 0.1x resources

Although that seems to have improved in recent years.

https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=json§...

RoR and whatever C++ based web backend there is count as a valid comparison in my book. But comparing the languages itself is maybe a bit off.

On a side note, you can actually compare their performance here if you’re really curious. But take it with a grain of salt since these are synthetic benchmarks.

https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks

Most benchmarks you'll find essentially have someone's thumb on the scale (intentionally or unintentionally). Most people won't know the different languages well enough to create comparable implementations and if you let different people create the implementations, cheating happens. The TechEmpower benchmarks aren't bad, but many implementations put their thumb on the scale (https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks). For example, a lot of the Go implementations avoid the GC by pre-allocating/reusing structs or allocate arrays knowing how big they need to be in advance (despite that being against the rules). At some point, it becomes "how many features have you turned off." Some Go http routers (like fasthttp and those built off it like Atreugo and Fiber) aren't actually correct and a lot of people in the Go community discourage their use, but they certainly top the benchmarks. Gin and Echo are usually the ones that are well-respected in the Go community.

There is certainly a lot of speculation in Techempower benchmarks and top entries can utilize questionable techniques like simply writing a byte array literal to output stream instead of constructing a response, or (in the past) DB query coalescing to work around inherent limitations of the DB in case of Fortunes or DB quries.

And yet, the fastest Ruby entry is at 274th place while Rails is at 427th.

https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s...

oh what machine? with how many workers? doing what?

search for "node" on this page: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21

JustJS would like a word https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&tes...

In terms of RPS, this web service is more-or-less the fortunes benchmark in the techempower benchmarks, once the data hits the cache: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21

Or, at least, they would be after applying optimizations to them.

In short, both of these would serve more rps than you will likely ever need on even the lowest end virtual machines. The underlying API provider will probably cut you off from querying them before you run out of RPS.