piper VS TTS

Compare piper vs TTS and see what are their differences.

TTS

:robot: :speech_balloon: Deep learning for Text to Speech (Discussion forum: https://discourse.mozilla.org/c/tts) (by mozilla)
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piper

Posts with mentions or reviews of piper. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-05-01.
  • ESpeak-ng: speech synthesizer with more than one hundred languages and accents
    21 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 May 2024
    After some brief research it seems the issue you're seeing may be a known bug in at least some versions/release of espeak-ng.

    Here's some potentially related links if you'd like to dig deeper:

    * "questions about mandarin data packet #1044": https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues/1044

    * "ESpeak NJ-1.51’s Mandarin pronunciation is corrupted #12952": https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/12952

    * "The pronunciation of Mandarin Chinese using ESpeak NJ in NVDA is not normal #1028": https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues/1028

    * "When espeak-ng translates Chinese (cmn), IPA tone symbols are not output correctly #305": https://github.com/rhasspy/piper/issues/305

    * "Please default ESpeak NG's voice role to 'Chinese (Mandarin, latin as Pinyin)' for Chinese to fix #12952 #13572": https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13572

    * "Cmn voice not correctly translated #1370": https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues/1370

  • WhisperSpeech – An Open Source text-to-speech system built by inverting Whisper
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jan 2024
    If you're not already aware, the primary developer of Mimic 3 (and its non-Mimic predecessor Larynx) continued TTS-related development with Larynx and the renamed project Piper: https://github.com/rhasspy/piper

    Last year Piper development was supported by Nabu Casa for their "Year of Voice" project for Home Assistant and it sounds like Mike Hansen is going to continue on it with their support this year.

  • Coqui.ai Is Shutting Down
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2024
    Coqui-ai was a commercial continuation of Mozilla TTS and STT (https://github.com/mozilla/TTS).

    At the time (2018-ish), it was really impressive for on-device voice synthesis (with a quality approaching the Google and Azure cloud-based voice synthesis options) and open source, so a lot of people in the FOSS community were hoping it could be used for a privacy-respecting home assistant, Linux speech synthesis that doesn't suck, etc.

    After Mozilla abandoned the project, Coqui continued development and had some really impressive one-shot voice cloning, but pivoted to marketing speech synthesis for game developers. They were probably having trouble monetizing it, and it doesn't surprise me that they shut down.

    An equivalent project that's still in active development and doing really well is Piper TTS (https://github.com/rhasspy/piper).

  • OpenVoice: Versatile Instant Voice Cloning
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Jan 2024
    There isn't an ElevenLabs app like that, but I think that's the most expedient method, by far.

    (details and warning: in-depth, opinionated take, written almost for my own benefit, I've done a lot of work near here recently but haven't had to organize my thoughts until now)

    Why? Local inference is hard. You need two things: the clips to voice model (which we have here, but bleeding edge), and text + voice -> speech model.

    Text to voice to speech, locally, has excellent prior art for me, in the form of a Raspberry Pi-based ONNX inference library called [Piper](https://github.com/rhasspy/piper). I should just be able to copy that, about an afternoon of work!

    Except...when these models are trained, they encode plaintext to model input using a library called eSpeak. eSpeak is basically f(plaintext) => ints representing phonemes. eSpeak is a C library and written in a style I haven't seen in a while and depends on other C libraries. So I end up needing to port like 20K lines of C to Dart...or I could use WASM, but over the last year, I lost the ability to be able to reason through how to get WASM running in Dart, both native and web.

    It's a really annoying technical problem: the speech models all use this eSpeak C library to turn plaintext => model input (tokenized phonemes).

    Re: ElevenLabs

    I had looked into the API months ago and vaguely remembered it was _very_ complete.

    I spent the last hour or two playing with it, and reconfirmed that. They have enough API surface that you could build an API that took voice recordings, created a voice, and then did POSTs / socket connection to get audio data from that voice at will.

    Only issue is pricing IMHO, $0.18 for 1000 characters. :/ But this is something I feel very comfortable saying wouldn't be _that_ much work to build and open source with a "bring your own API key" type thing. I had forgotten about Eleven Labs till your post, which made me realize there was an actually meaningful and quite moving use case for it.

  • Hello guys, any selfhosted alternative to eleven labs?
    3 projects | /r/selfhosted | 11 Dec 2023
    piper (https://github.com/rhasspy/piper)
  • [D] What offline TTS Model is good enough for a realistic real-time task?
    2 projects | /r/MachineLearning | 10 Dec 2023
    I have been using piper-tts and it is GREAT and super lightweight / easy to use. On a 2080 I'm sure you can use the HQ models no worries!
  • Easy implement TTS libary for cpp
    1 project | /r/cpp_questions | 7 Dec 2023
    So i found some library and one which is from github and have read.me or good documentation called piper (https://github.com/rhasspy/piper) so apparently this library is for rasbery pi and yes there is TXT function and i need to modify again to make it more simple but my simple project don't need this kind of big complex libary and all i need is what i said before just a function that can output sound from computer using c++ libary.
  • Piper-whistle – Tool for piper TTS voice model management
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Dec 2023
    piper-whistle is a tool to manage voices used with the piper (https://github.com/rhasspy/piper) speech synthesizer. Main motivation was to download and reference models in a structured way. You may browse the docs online at https://think-biq.gitlab.io/piper-whistle/
  • StyleTTS2 – open-source Eleven Labs quality Text To Speech
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Nov 2023
    You may want to try Piper for this case (RPi 4): https://github.com/rhasspy/piper
  • Piper: A fast, local neural text to speech system
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Nov 2023

TTS

Posts with mentions or reviews of TTS. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-01-04.
  • Any recommendation for human like voice AI model for conversation AI?
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jan 2024
    Fast or good, choose one

    Mozilla's TTS is a python package installable with pip and uses cpu or gpu resources to render a choice of voices, they mostly sound natural and this is the good. https://github.com/mozilla/TTS

    Mycroft's mimic3 is the default voice renderer for the Mycroft project that runs on pi hardware and sounds ok-ish, that is the fast. https://github.com/MycroftAI/mimic3

    There are many others but these are the two I use according to if it needs to run on limited hardware or if the cycles fall freely from the sky.

  • Coqui.ai Is Shutting Down
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2024
    Coqui-ai was a commercial continuation of Mozilla TTS and STT (https://github.com/mozilla/TTS).

    At the time (2018-ish), it was really impressive for on-device voice synthesis (with a quality approaching the Google and Azure cloud-based voice synthesis options) and open source, so a lot of people in the FOSS community were hoping it could be used for a privacy-respecting home assistant, Linux speech synthesis that doesn't suck, etc.

    After Mozilla abandoned the project, Coqui continued development and had some really impressive one-shot voice cloning, but pivoted to marketing speech synthesis for game developers. They were probably having trouble monetizing it, and it doesn't surprise me that they shut down.

    An equivalent project that's still in active development and doing really well is Piper TTS (https://github.com/rhasspy/piper).

  • What self hosted app do you wish existed?
    17 projects | /r/selfhosted | 18 Jun 2023
    An RSS reader that integrates TTS (or TTS)
  • Audio Converter! How to write one in c/c++?
    1 project | /r/AskProgramming | 14 May 2023
    My solution would be to use a speech synthesis library, maybe eSpeak or Festival, just for ease of use; I think they each provide a library that you could use from C or C++ easily. This one from Mozilla is a more modern system with better-quality output, but it looks like it's set up to run through Python, and I haven't looked at it closely enough to see how much work it would be to get it working for you.
  • Web Speech API is (still) broken on Linux circa 2023
    8 projects | /r/javascript | 15 Apr 2023
    There is a lot of TTS and SST development going on (https://github.com/mozilla/TTS; https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech; https://github.com/common-voice/common-voice). That is the only way they work: Contributions from the wild.
  • [P] Balacoon: free-to-use text-to-speech
    3 projects | /r/MachineLearning | 13 Apr 2023
    unfortunately not yet. I need to expand the library of languages and voices. looking around, it seems only Coqui had some traction re Brazilian Portuguese: https://github.com/mozilla/TTS/issues/160. If you foresee wide adoption of the tech for this locale, hit me up with DM
  • Text to speech free
    1 project | /r/software | 9 Apr 2023
    I haven't used it, but there's also mozilla/TTS.
  • Does anyone know how to set up Mozilla TTS to work with firefox's reader view?
    1 project | /r/firefox | 31 Mar 2023
    Mozilla TTS
  • Conteúdo removido do rb que fiz sobre a destruição do Rio Doce 853KM de rio pela Vale e BHP Billings
    1 project | /r/brasilivre | 25 Mar 2023
  • [D] Looking for someone to do a small coding job
    2 projects | /r/MachineLearning | 25 Feb 2023
    Instead, just use Firefox's open-source TTS model: https://github.com/mozilla/TTS

What are some alternatives?

When comparing piper and TTS you can also consider the following projects:

tortoise-tts - A multi-voice TTS system trained with an emphasis on quality

Real-Time-Voice-Cloning - Clone a voice in 5 seconds to generate arbitrary speech in real-time

TTS - 🐸💬 - a deep learning toolkit for Text-to-Speech, battle-tested in research and production

TensorFlowTTS - :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: TensorFlowTTS: Real-Time State-of-the-art Speech Synthesis for Tensorflow 2 (supported including English, French, Korean, Chinese, German and Easy to adapt for other languages)

espeak-ng - eSpeak NG is an open source speech synthesizer that supports more than hundred languages and accents.

STT - 🐸STT - The deep learning toolkit for Speech-to-Text. Training and deploying STT models has never been so easy.

silero-models - Silero Models: pre-trained speech-to-text, text-to-speech and text-enhancement models made embarrassingly simple

DeepSpeech - DeepSpeech is an open source embedded (offline, on-device) speech-to-text engine which can run in real time on devices ranging from a Raspberry Pi 4 to high power GPU servers.

mimic3 - A fast local neural text to speech engine for Mycroft

NeMo - A scalable generative AI framework built for researchers and developers working on Large Language Models, Multimodal, and Speech AI (Automatic Speech Recognition and Text-to-Speech)

willow - Open source, local, and self-hosted Amazon Echo/Google Home competitive Voice Assistant alternative