pyscript VS wizer

You are right for the most part. I attended a talk about pyscript[1] (runs python in the browser using wasm which is similar) and there is a 2x performance hit.

[1] https://pyscript.net

PyScript maintainer here - I'd love to hear more about this application! Either here, or over on our Discord (invite link is on the GitHub Page [1]).

[1] https://github.com/pyscript/pyscript?tab=readme-ov-file#summ...

For the first question - why your code previously created an HTML node but now just prints out the literal characters of the HTML - that was a change made in 2022.12.1, in Pull Request 915 to be specific. You can check out the single-line change that caused this, if you want. Essentially, calls to Element.write() or display() have their contents escaped by default, which wasn't the case before.

Note that in the current release (2023.03.1 at time of writing), py-[event] listeners are only hooked up once at page-load time, so changing that attribute after the page loads won't do anything. In the upcoming release, py-[event] handlers are dynamically attached and managed each time a py-[event] attribute on the page is changed. (PR 1435)

PyScript started as a usability layer around Pyodide for those not used to working in JS. It's now working on things like incorporating the Micropython runtime as an alternative, moving the interpreter to a worker thread, adding a plugins ecosystem, easier events API's, and more.

Some answers: https://github.com/pyscript/pyscript/discussions/1414

You can also check out the WebGL demo from the PyScript examples, which uses Thee.JS.

Mainly, the pys-onClick syntax that was present in earlier version in favor of the new py-* syntax, where * is a browser event name. It also takes a string of executable python instead of the name of a Callable. So in your case, you'd use py-click="get_input()". (There's a long-in-progress PR on GitHub with more examples.)

> once by the wasm runtime to compile the rust-python wasm

I'm not sure what you mean by that. The runtime doesn't compile WASM, it simply executes it.

There are tools for dealing with interpreter runtime overhead this by pre-initalizing the environment like Wizer[0]. ComponentizeJS[1] uses it to pre-initialize the Spidermoney engine it packages to gain fast startup times (and you can then prune the initialization only code with wasm-opt). As techniques like ComponentizeJS are also being applied for a specific set of interpreted files, you can even prune parts of the interpreter that would never be used for that specific program. If you want to go even further you could record specific execution profiles and optimize further by those.

[0]: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wizer

[1]: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/ComponentizeJS

Edge functions are typically run intermittently, with their runtime stopped to free up resources between runs. Therefore a big factor is startup and shutdown speed. Containers are pretty bad there. Deno is better, and WASM is unbeatable, especially with things like Wizer[0].

[0]https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wizer

I imagine startup cost could be amortized by something like wizer: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wizer

There are security benefits to running each request in its own instance, as it helps prevent accidental leaking of state between requests. To avoid doing lots of expensive initializations, we have a tool called wizer which lets users run their program's initialization once, create a snapshot, and then use that snapshot to do fast startups that don't rerun the whole initialization each time.

See https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wizer for an implementation of this approach.

It should probably be named "Making JavaScript to startup fast on WebAssembly", since the runtime speed is not really improved by the approach they exposed.

Besides that I think Wizer [1] is both an elegant and a simple solution to speed up startup speed with Wasm.

[1] - https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wizer#using-wizer-as-a-l...

A similar project, for WebAssembly so with limited scope is this: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wizer. And somehow similar but limited on LLVM IR a colleague worked on this for Cheerp (the compiler used here as backend): https://github.com/leaningtech/cheerp-meta/wiki/Cheerp-PreExecuter.