protea
An in-progress programming language inspired by JavaScript. (by nx-lr)
cinder
Cinder is Meta's internal performance-oriented production version of CPython. (by facebookincubator)
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| protea | cinder | |
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| 1 | 43 | |
| 4 | 3,387 | |
| - | 0.9% | |
| 4.1 | 9.4 | |
| 9 months ago | 3 days ago | |
| JavaScript | Python | |
| - | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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protea
Posts with mentions or reviews of protea.
We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives
and similar projects. The last one was on 2021-11-01.
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November 2021 monthly "What are you working on?" thread
I've been working on the grammar for my language Protea for a little over four months now. I aim for it to be used to build cross-platform full-stack applications, perhaps using existing JavaScript, Rust and Python libraries.
cinder
Posts with mentions or reviews of cinder.
We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives
and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-07-08.
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Meta Used Monolithic Architecture to Ship Threads in Only Five Months
Meta is actually contributing directly to upstream cpython. If you really wanted to, the internal fork is also open source: https://github.com/facebookincubator/cinder
- Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL removal is accepted
- Back end of Meta Threads is built with Python 3.10 with some interesting tweaks
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Lessons from Mojo for PHP 10+ ?
Just one example: last year Meta open-sourced Cinder, which powers Instagram and provides sizeable speedups compared to CPython.
- Python true static typing
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Best book on writing an optimizing compiler (inlining, types, abstract interpretation)?
I used to work on the Cinder JIT and can help document any passes you find interesting or confusing.
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Python-based compiler achieves orders-of-magnitude speedups
You might enjoy Cinder then. It's based on CPython so it is nearly 100% compatible.
https://github.com/facebookincubator/cinder/
Disclaimer: I used to work on it.
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beartype: It has documentation now. It only took two years, my last hair follicle, precious sanity points (SPs), and working with Sphinx. Don't be like @leycec. Go hard on documentation early.
I think Cinder's Static Python, which also performs runtime type checking, is more ambitious. Though it's not production ready yet.
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If there’s gonna be a Python 4.0 one day, what’s a breaking change you’d like to see? Let’s explore the ideas you have that can make Python even better!
Here's a fork that implements that https://github.com/facebookincubator/cinder - it might be nice to one day get that up streamed but obviously it'll be controversial and it certainly needs more time to bake. Hopefully at some point we can make it a pip installable extension though.
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Is it time for Python to have a statically-typed, compiled, fast superset?
The other thing that was interesting to me, was the potential of type annotations to help make for a faster, safer experience on the compiler end of things. One example is seen in Meta’s Cinder project, on the docs it explains how typing can be used to reduce the number of steps for the compiler ([cinder/static_python.rst at cinder/3.8 · facebookincubator/cinder · GitHub](https://github.com/facebookincubator/cinder/blob/cinder/3.8/CinderDoc/static_python.rst)), making it more effective.
What are some alternatives?
When comparing protea and cinder you can also consider the following projects:
pyret-lang - The Pyret language.
faster-cpython - How to make CPython faster.
mcscript - A programming language for Minecraft Vanilla
Pyjion - Pyjion - A JIT for Python based upon CoreCLR
RustScript2 - RustScript is a functional scripting language with as much relation to Rust as Javascript has to Java.
Pyjion
tonic - An elegant language for script-kiddies and terminal squatters.
graalpython - A Python 3 implementation built on GraalVM
aussieplusplus - Programming language from down under
MonkeyType - A Python library that generates static type annotations by collecting runtime types
lockdown - Lockdown is a general-purpose programming language that combines the positive characteristics of both "strongly-typed" and "dynamic" languages, giving the developer the choice about when and how these should be used.
hpy - HPy: a better API for Python