programming-phoenix-liveview VS mix_install_examples

Read and watch tutorials: Thinking Elixir - a podcast that explores different aspects of the Elixir programming language: https://thinkingelixir.com/ Learn Elixir - a free interactive tutorial that teaches Elixir from scratch: https://www.learnelixir.tv/ Programming Phoenix LiveView - a book that teaches how to build web applications in Elixir using the Phoenix framework https://pragprog.com/titles/liveview/programming-phoenix-liveview/

A good project based book that goes pretty in depth is: https://pragprog.com/titles/liveview/programming-phoenix-liv...

LiveView is evolving into a great piece of tech, but as others have noted elsewhere in the comments one of the challenging parts with LiveView right now (and to an extent Phoenix) is the outdated books & tutorials.

Bruce Tate and Sophie DeBenedetto have been authoring the book “Programming Phoenix LiveView” (https://pragprog.com/titles/liveview/programming-phoenix-liv...) which has the potential to be a great source for people that want to really dive into LiveView. The challenge though is they have not updated it to support the changes introduced in 0.18.0 which makes it really hard to start using the book when a new Phoenix application “mix phx.new dev_app” looks different than what’s in their book and some of their code breaks with the default installed versions of included plugs.

While I wish the book would receive an update sooner that brings it back to a compatible state (meaning there are no issues following along with the book), the good news is they have committed to having the book be updated when LiveView hits 1.0.

I suggest cloning down an actual LiveView project (maybe this one?) and making changes to it. That will help you get a grip on things more easily than trying to build something from scratch right away.

Ya, it's fair, it's a common complaint! Though the size of the generated files is nothing compared to Rails :D

You're right that phx_new does count too. It's a bit misunderstood that Phoenix is actually closer to a micro-framework like Flask than it is a full-fledged solution like Django or Rails. What takes it up to their level is `mix phx.new`, so your argument is more on point than I initially thought. The LiveView issue tracker even provides a single-file version of a Phoenix app to re-create your issue in [0]. As you can see, it's not as simple as something like Flask, but not as complex as the generator does.

Again, great article and happy to have you aboard ;)

Also, if you want an auth solution without code generation, there is Pow [1]

[0] https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main...

- learning how to compute the checksum of the internal content of a zip file https://github.com/etalab/transport-site/blob/master/scripts...

As mentioned in the article, I can definitely recommend to check out https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples which has a long list of examples.

Streaming ChatGPT via SSE in Elixir: https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/pull/22#i...

love elixir. hate Mix.

it's like using Maven or npm all over again. but even worse because it generates a lot of code.

it creates disposable projects by design. No way to keep track of what to change when mix create outputs something different next year.

and now things like https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main... where is ecto even installed? download from where? so annoying this trend.

Like others have told you, Phoenix doesn't really add much complexity / fat / weight. In terms of complexity, if you don't want to use phx_new to boostrap the project here's a sample of using Phoenix LiveView in a single script file: https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main/phoenix_live_view.exs

If you want to play around with Ecto in isolation, you can (thanks to `Mix.install/2`) work in single-files, all containing the migrations, the schemas and configuration.

Check-out this repository for an example (and other single-file examples):

https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main...