operations-mediawiki-config VS Mastodon

Compare operations-mediawiki-config vs Mastodon and see what are their differences.


⚙️ Configuration for Wikimedia Foundation wikis. This is a mirror from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/mediawiki-config/. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access for contributing. (by wikimedia)
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operations-mediawiki-config Mastodon
1 1,231
78 46,435
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Posts with mentions or reviews of operations-mediawiki-config. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2021-10-24.
  • The falsehoods of anti-AGPL propaganda (2020)
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Oct 2021
    > Configuration is just a short artifact. It's not a creative work and is therefore not copyrightable at all, whether by AGPL or otherwise.

    I'm doubtful. For example https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config is wikipedia's config. It is not short, and much of it is complex enough i think it would be copyrightable (ianal)

    I agree though a very traditional list of key value pairs that are simple facts like where to find the db, might lack creativity to be copyrighted (ianal). But how many real deployed systems have that simple a config. More generally i would prefer that the license was less ambigious about this especially in an international context (e.g. rules are totally different in uk over what can be copyrighted)

    > I'm not convinced obscurity helps against spam at all. DKIM and blocklists have done much more against email spam than any form of "security by obscurity" corporate scheme has.

    Gmail et al use techniques beyond dkim that are secret. However i meant more like web spam where you can't just rely on source vouching for users. For example on wikipedia there is a feature where admins can write "code" that block patterns in edits. When used against persistent vandals, they are often secret lest they use the info to adjust behaviour. That's the type of thing i mean.

    > if you are coordinating with the developers, then you have their explicit permission to temporarily withhold those changes (AGPL copyright holders can still grant exceptions to the license)

    That only works if one entity holds all the copyright. Even then, does that mean forks cannot have coordinated disclosure?


Posts with mentions or reviews of Mastodon. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-06-17.
  • Tech radar: Keep an eye on the technology landscape
    6 projects | dev.to | 17 Jun 2024
    You can favor other alternatives for ideological reasons, like Mastodon or Bluesky, but you should know that there is much less exposure at the moment, although it attracts important people in tech.
  • Call to Action: Fediverse Media Server
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 May 2024
    If you really, absolutely want to continue using Mastodon, support this: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/28554.

    If you just want to run a single-user instance on the cheap: forget Mastodon! Takahe [0] does not require one whole server for each user and it has substantial lower TCO. A "small instance" for Mastodon can not be realistically be found for less than $10/month today [1], while I can offer Takahe for $39 per year.

    [0] https://jointakahe.org

    [1] https://communick.com/takahe

  • Bluesky Adds Direct Messages
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 May 2024
    >You go to https://joinmastodon.org/, click on "join" (or pick another server if you are adventurous), fill in your username and email and you're good to go.

    And that gives me access to the entire service? Or just bits and pieces of it? And how do I find other services? Asking around?

    Decentralized works for motivated parties. It does not work for the masses.

  • Max_post_chars Env Part 2 by boehs · Pull Request #30091 · Mastodon/Mastodon
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 20 May 2024
  • Ask HN: What do you think about a subscription based social media?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Apr 2024
    Oh, TIL about https://mastodon.social/ (https://joinmastodon.org/)

    Looks like what you describe, doesn't it?

    > Social networking that's not for sale.

  • Alt Text box can't fit one screenshot of text
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Apr 2024
    Interestingly there is some discussion for Mastodon with people asking the limit to be smaller, which raises the question as to the purpose of alt text, and how to properly handle larger text lengths in screen reader programs.


  • Open source at Fastly is getting opener
    10 projects | dev.to | 15 Mar 2024
    Through the Fast Forward program, we give free services and support to open source projects and the nonprofits that support them. We support many of the world’s top programming languages (like Python, Rust, Ruby, and the wonderful Scratch), foundational technologies (cURL, the Linux kernel, Kubernetes, OpenStreetMap), and projects that make the internet better and more fun for everyone (Inkscape, Mastodon, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Terms of Service; Didn’t Read).
  • Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Feb 2024
    Mastodon DMs have absolutely no privacy: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/18079

    For a decentralized protocol doing things right is much more important than doing things fast, it is very difficult (and in a lot of cases impossible) to break backwards compatibility.

  • External OpenID Connect Account Takeover by Email Change
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Feb 2024
  • Ask HN: Best practice for posting links to large Mastodon threads?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Feb 2024
    Postmortem on what happened here: https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=39305884

    The v1 API of Mastodon limits the size of the tree that it will expand for users who are not logged into the server: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/blob/main/app/controllers/api/v1/statuses_controller.rb . I am guessing that this or some similar limit applies to threads being returned to unauthenticated users of the web UI. It just arbitrarily stops expanding the replies at some point, including the main thread from the OP.

    If a thread is truncated, users expect it to expand automatically and autoscroll when you hit the bottom. In my desktop browser, that does not occur, and there is no indication that there is more to see. This is the situation of the web interface as of Mastodon version 4.2.5.

    The issue is very sensitive to observer conditions. If you are logged into the server, the behavior is different. If you use a Mastodon app instead of the web, the behavior might be different. As the tree expands, the cutoffs become different. If you look at the thread on a different Mastodon server, the tree is different because every server has its own view of the Fediverse.

    HN needs a best practice for linking to Mastodon threads in a way that provides a consistent experience to HN readers. The average Mastodon server would be crushed by hundreds of HN readers grabbing the entirety of a huge thread all at once, so this might involve some thread-unroll-and-cache service. I tried https://mastoreader.io/ but it did not solve the problem.

    Alternately, we push changes into the Mastodon web UI to warn users when they need to click to see more and assume that people will get used to the navigation.


What are some alternatives?

When comparing operations-mediawiki-config and Mastodon you can also consider the following projects:

operations-puppet - Wikimedia Foundation operates some of the largest collaborative projects in the world. This is the Puppet repo for our servers. This repository is a mirror; see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access for contributing.

diaspora* - A privacy-aware, distributed, open source social network.

Mediawiki - 🌻 The collaborative editing software that runs Wikipedia. Mirror from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core. See https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access for contributing.

Misskey - 🌎 An interplanetary microblogging platform 🚀

archwiki - MediaWiki used on Arch Linux websites (read-only mirror)

Lemmy - 🐀 A link aggregator and forum for the fediverse

minio - The Object Store for AI Data Infrastructure

Friendica - Friendica Communications Platform

Symfony - The Symfony PHP framework

GNU social - GNU social is social communication software for both public and private communications.

nostr - a truly censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter that has a chance of working

PixelFed - Photo Sharing. For Everyone.

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