open-watcom-v2 VS WSL

Compare open-watcom-v2 vs WSL and see what are their differences.

open-watcom-v2

Open Watcom V2.0 - Source code repository, Wiki, Latest Binary build, Archived builds including all installers for download. (by open-watcom)
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open-watcom-v2 WSL
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921 16,676
2.6% 0.7%
9.9 8.6
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open-watcom-v2

Posts with mentions or reviews of open-watcom-v2. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-01-17.
  • Djgpp
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jan 2024
    https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2

    In terms of ISO-complianceness, perhaps don't expect much. It basically C89 (the C99 support is still incomplete), and for C++... most likely not even C++98 - compliant.

  • Popularity of DOS/4GW made Win95 game compat easier, but with higher stakes
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Aug 2023
    > You will also want to start with a 16-bit C compiler like Borland Turbo C or Microsoft C

    The parent post mentioned they're going to use OpenWatcom which is an actively developed[0] C and C++ compiler that targets 16bit DOS (among others).

    [0] https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2

  • #pragma once / header guards / C++ committee.
    2 projects | /r/cpp | 31 May 2023
    Despite the lack of feature support, the compiler is still updated to this day, and still does support DOS, Windows, Linux, and OS/2, so it's modern in the sense of maintenance, just not really standards support. If you got further questions, I can send you the Discord link. They are pretty friendly.
  • Rust is Boring
    6 projects | /r/rust | 13 Mar 2023
    My advice is, when you feel you need that challenge, install DOSBox or DOSBox-X and Open Watcom C/C++, DJGPP, or gcc-ia16 and do some retro-programming. You'll also get the fun of being able to do low-level hardware twiddling and rely on DOS being so simple that it's effectively an RTOS.
  • Build C/C++ programs to run on homebrew 286?
    1 project | /r/homebrewcomputer | 24 Feb 2023
    If you want to build under Linux, I would recommend you look at Open Watcom. It's the best open source 16-bit x86 C compiler, IMHO.
  • "My Reaction to Dr. Stroustrup’s Recent Memory Safety Comments"
    11 projects | /r/rust | 2 Feb 2023
    I have recently found out that Watcom C still exists. And not just exists, but there are plenty of commits.
  • Win16 Retro Development
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Dec 2022
    I should note, that OpenWatcom 2.0[1] is far better for supporting more recent C and C++ code, modern hosts and tooling, but still able to compile into 16 bit code. It is also actively maintained. Instead of MASM I recommend JWasm[2] + Jwlink[3]. Back in time I did a fork[4] of JWasm that has cleaner build system (CMake).

    [1] https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2

    [2] https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/JWasm

    [3] https://github.com/JWasm/JWlink

    [4] https://github.com/JWasm/JWasm

  • Rendering like it's 1996 - Baby's first pixel
    1 project | /r/programming | 16 Dec 2022
    If you want to run this in DOS: the code under src/should actually compile with this OpenWatcom fork via the -za99 flag. MiniFB however will not compile. You'd have to palettize the output pixel buffer to 256 colors and then blit it to 0xa000if you fancy that.
  • Falsehoods programmers believe about undefined behavior
    7 projects | /r/rust | 28 Nov 2022
    GCC, clang or maybe watcom? You wouldn't find it there (before invention of AGI, but that would be entirely different can of worms).
  • Having trouble setting up whonix on Mac OS
    1 project | /r/Whonix | 8 Nov 2022

WSL

Posts with mentions or reviews of WSL. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-28.
  • GoboLinux
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Feb 2024
    It absolutely 100% can be true.

    As an example: Windows Services for Linux 2 used a special init daemon to interact with the host OS.

    That meant no systemd. That meant that the `systemctl` program wasn't there.

    This baffled legions, armies, of wannabe sysadmins.

    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55579342/why-systemd-is-...

    https://superuser.com/questions/1785697/systemd-in-wsl-on-wi...

    https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/9477

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1132230/unable-to-run-any-sy...

    People on the whole have no idea how this stuff works, and they just copy magic incantations from StackOverflow to get stuff to happen. If that doesn't work, then this OS is broken. The end.

    For these guys, WSL was broken.

    Result:

    MS hired Lennart Poettering.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/07/lennart_poettering_re...

    He "fixed" it. Systemd now works in WSL2. All those guides for noobs now work. Everyone is happy.

    In a world where tools like Flatpak and Snap are proliferating and it's driving deep divisions between Linux distros, if you think the average person struggling with Linux is going to use `ldd` to work out where the dependencies for something live, I'm afraid you are a deep guru who lives on a different plane of existence.

    We now have widely-used packaging systems which simply embed an apps entire dependency tree into a package to avoid people having to work out the difference between `apt` and `rpm`. Thousands of terabytes of disk are being burned to make this stuff go away.

    Yes, this is too hard. Way too hard.

  • Why Linux utilities tend to run poorly on Windows
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2024
    Better source: https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425...
  • Weird graphical glitch/problem in Ubuntu WSLg (OpenGL)
    1 project | /r/bashonubuntuonwindows | 10 Dec 2023
  • RamRamRamEveryoneSleepingOnDocker
    3 projects | /r/ProgrammerHumor | 7 Dec 2023
    One of the bugs where on the Docker side. As I have said, there have been several since release with a lot of impact period overlap. The latest and greatest is not resolved.
  • Laravel dev in Windows - Laragon vs Docker?
    1 project | /r/laravel | 7 Dec 2023
    It's the issue of abysmal I/O performance in communication between the mounted WSL2 virtual hard disk and Windows mounts inside the WSL2 distro.
  • WSL freeze seems fixed in 2.0.12
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Dec 2023
  • What's the right way to open files in the system's default program from Ubuntu 22.04 in WSL 2 please?
    1 project | /r/bashonubuntuonwindows | 6 Dec 2023
    I found this github page and I was able to reproduce this from the answer
  • Ask HN: Best Docker open source alternative?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Dec 2023
    * Docker engine and not Docker Desktop in a VM. WSL2 works well after some configuration: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/6655#issuecomment-11...
  • Broadcom to Cut Almost 1,300 VMware Jobs in California After Takeover
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Nov 2023
    Seems to more of a Defender issue than a WSL one, see https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/8995

    After adding exclusions for the fsnotifier-wsl process and and both variants of the WSL distro path my disk performance was improved.

    Adding the idea64.exe process also helped since I was trying to run IntelliJ against projects inside WSL.

  • Bricked WSL 2 after 2.0.9 / Windows 10
    1 project | /r/bashonubuntuonwindows | 21 Nov 2023

What are some alternatives?

When comparing open-watcom-v2 and WSL you can also consider the following projects:

gcc-ia16 - Fork of Lambertsen & Jenner (& al.)'s IA-16 (Intel 16-bit x86) port of GNU compilers ― added far pointers & more • use https://github.com/tkchia/build-ia16 to build • Ubuntu binaries at https://launchpad.net/%7Etkchia/+archive/ubuntu/build-ia16/ • DJGPP/MS-DOS binaries at https://gitlab.com/tkchia/build-ia16/-/releases • mirror of https://gitlab.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16

wslg - Enabling the Windows Subsystem for Linux to include support for Wayland and X server related scenarios

DOOM - DOOM Open Source Release

genie - A quick way into a systemd "bottle" for WSL

MS-DOS - The original sources of MS-DOS 1.25 and 2.0, for reference purposes

Scoop - A command-line installer for Windows.

em-dosbox - An Emscripten port of DOSBox

Single-GPU-Passthrough

abrash-black-book - Markdown source for Michael Abrash's Graphics Programming Black Book

setup-msys2 - GitHub Action to setup MSYS2

emu2 - Simple x86 and DOS emulator for the Linux terminal.

mkcert - A simple zero-config tool to make locally trusted development certificates with any names you'd like.