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no-panic
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no_panic causing errors in hello world?
I discovered a crate called no_panic that prevents a function from compiling, unless the compiler can proof that this function can't panic.
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Is there something like "super-safe" rust?
/u/dtolnay has a no-panic macro, I don't know its limitations but in older comments they note it pretty much has to be used in release mode, as there are lots of panic codepaths which get optimised out.
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Is Rust really safe? How to identify functions that can potentially cause panic
'Hacks' such as https://github.com/dtolnay/no-panic, https://crates.io/crates/no-panics-whatsoever that ensure any calls to panic handling will result in link errors. Not really reliable in terms of being able to abort instead, but a possible tool.
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US NGO Consumer Reports also reporting on C and C++ safety for product development.
nope. Unfortunately, no mainstream language has this yet. We need an Algebraic effects typesystem to do this properly. There are a few temporary band-aid solutions like https://github.com/dtolnay/no-panic
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Carefully exploring Rust as a Python developer
This kind of already exists in the form of #[no_panic] [1]?
> If the function does panic (or the compiler fails to prove that the function cannot panic), the program fails to compile with a linker error that identifies the function name.
1: https://github.com/dtolnay/no-panic
- What I like about rust
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LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH v9 12/27] rust: add `kernel` crate
I really think that Rust needs an official #[no_panic] macro that can validate these sort of things (like dtolnay’s crate, I’m not sure why it was archived)
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A pair of Linux kernel modules using Rust
Because it's convenient and familiar to most programmers. Not providing bounds-checked indexing makes some kinds of code very hard to write.
But note his problem also happens with integer division.
In Rust, a[x] on an array or vec is really a roughly a shortand for a.get(x).unwrap() (with a different error message)
Likewise, a / b on integers is a kind of a shortand for a.checked_div(b).unwrap()
The thing is, if the index ever is out of bounds, or if the denominator is zero, the program has a bug, 100% of time. And if you catch a bug using an assertion there is seldom anything better than interrupting the execution (the only thing I can think of is restarting the program or the subsystem). If you continue execution past a programming error, you may sometimes corrupt data structures or introduce bizarre, hard to debug situations.
Doing a pattern match on a.get(x) doesn't help because if it's ever None (and your program logic expects that x is in bounds) then you are kind of forced to bail.
The downside here is that we aren't catching this bug at compile time. And it's true that sometimes we can rewrite the program to not have an indexing operation, usually using iterators (eliding the bounds check will make the program run faster, too). But in general this is not possible, at least not without bringing formal methods. But that's what tests are for, to ensure the correctness of stuff type errors can't catch.
Now, there are some crates like https://github.com/dtolnay/no-panic or https://github.com/facebookexperimental/MIRAI that will check that your code is panic free. The first one is based on the fact that llvm optimizations can often remove dead code and thus remove the panic from a[x] or a / b - if it doesn't, then compilation fails. The second one employs formal methods to mathematically prove that there is no panic. I guess those techniques will eventually be ported to the kernel even if panics happen differently there (by hooking on the BUG mechanism or whatever)
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Redoing the runtime
Hmm, yeah as you mentioned, looks like a surprising amount of stuff is already done in the rust for the linux kernel project: https://github.com/Rust-for-Linux/linux/tree/rust/rust/. It's also MIT/Apache licensed, but I was expecting gpl, so I can actually use it. It's still a lot to trim down on, so might be easier to just build up as needed. Additionally I just saw /u/dtolnay's #[no_panic] attribute which at least makes it a compiler error if it's accidentally done.
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[PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Rust support
Obviously, in bare metal systems, in the kernel, etc, you always want to use the second style. In this patch series, the first type had been stubbed out to panic, but Linus doesn't want any chance of panicking, he wants it to be a compile time error if anyone tries to call these methods from within the kernel, for example by not providing the symbols and failing to link if someone did try to use them. There is already precedent for doing that in the Rust ecosystem, so it's planned to do that in this patch series, but the authors hadn't gotten to that yet.
gccrs
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FreeBSD evaluating Rust's adoption into base system
There is a Rust front-end for GCC that is under active development [1]. If the chip vendors are not willing to develop and upstream a LLVM back-end then they can feel free to start contributing to it.
[1] https://rust-gcc.github.io/
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Why do lifetimes need to be leaky?
That's why gccrs doesn't even consider lifetime checking a part of the language (they plan to use Polonius, too).
- Rust-GCC: GCC Front-End for Rust
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How hard would it be to port the Rust toolchain to a new non-POSIX OS written in Rust and get it to host its own development? What would that process entail?
There's ongoing work on a Rust front-end for GCC (https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs). Bit barebones right now -- ie, even core doesn't compile -- but there's funding, demand, and regular progress, so it'll only get better from there. Once gccrs can compile core, it should be ready to compile most of Rust, and thus if you've taught the calling conventions for C to GCC, you're golden.
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How hard is it to write a front end for a more complex language like Rust or Kotlin?
I recommend checking out the GCC Rust frontend project.
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Rust contributions for Linux 6.4 are finally merged upstream!
That is what theyre refering to, yes. The GitHub is named https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs
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GCC 13 and the State of Gccrs
- But this misses so much extra context information
3. Macro invocations there are really subtle rules on how you treat macro invocations such as this which is not documented at all https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs/blob/master/gcc/rust/expan...
Some day I personally want to write a blog post about how complicated and under spec'd Rust is, then write one about the stuff i do like it such as iterators being part of libcore so i don't need reactive extensions.
- Break rust Easter Egg Merged Into gccrs
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Any alternate Rust compilers?
(Speaking of which, Rust-GCC (or gcc-rs or gccrs or whichever other of their names they decide is the primary one) isn't even going to be a complete C++ implementation. Their plan is to implement enough to compile Polonius (the NLL 2.0 borrow checker being developed in Rust for rustc) and then share that since borrow-checking isn't necessary for codegen... only to identify and reject invalid programs... making the C++ portion of it not that different in scope from mrustc.)
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Which programming languages, if all legacy code written in them was ported to a more modern language, would become extinct?
That bridge will be crossed with gccrs (compiling Rust with gcc directly, coming next month with GCC 13) and rust_codegen_gcc (rustc frontend, GCC backend, works now but just doesn’t yet have an “easy” setup)
What are some alternatives?
Rust-for-Linux - Adding support for the Rust language to the Linux kernel.
gcc-rust - a (WIP) Rust frontend for gcc / a gcc backend for rustc
rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.
rustc_codegen_gcc - libgccjit AOT codegen for rustc
rust - Rust language bindings for TensorFlow
rustc_codegen_gcc - libgccjit AOT codegen for rustc
mold - Mold: A Modern Linker 🦠
rfcs - RFCs for changes to Rust
lib - An experimental standard library