news VS Invidious

Nextcloud running the News app [1] on your own server, either an old laptop/desktop or a SBC like a Raspberry/Orange/Banana/${fruit} Pi. You'll get total control over whatever you do with the thing, as much 'free' cloud storage as you want and loads of other possible services. It runs fine on a Raspberry Pi 4 or one of the equivalent boards from other manufacturers.

Source: I've been running this before the Owncloud/Nextcloud split, it works as advertised.

[1] https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/news

One of the first things I do when I test aggregator sites like this one is to look for the RSS feed. I may have missed something but I did not find one here - could that be added? It would make it much easier to integrate into my normal 'news flow' which is more or less entirely built around RSS feeds presented through Nextcloud News [1]. I can scrape sites which do not provide their own feed but that is tedious and just increases the load on those sites.

[1] https://github.com/nextcloud/news

NextCloud News (nécessite NextCloud installé)

If you think this is a bug, you should open a ticket here: https://github.com/nextcloud/news

I have contacted next cloud 'News' plugin developer https://github.com/nextcloud/news/discussions/2066 to request automated call to archive.org.

I have received a response:

I don't think archive.org would be very happy if every nextcloud/news install would request they store the CNN frontpage every hour for example. I think this is better suited in feed creation software since that would know exactly when a feed is updated.

Previously I used Nextcloud News and enjoyed it, but recent versions require 64-bit PHP [1], which I didn’t have on the Raspberry Pi. Never did figure out why this requirement was imposed just for the News app.

[1] https://github.com/nextcloud/news/issues/1423

NC News was my first RSS aggregator, back when I was doubing whether I might need something like this at all - now I can't imagine not having one

cross-platform and with an app for android would be Nextcloud News. (https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/news) - But obviously you'd be needing a nextcloud first.

I'm using Nextcloud already and that has an officially supported RSS daemon app[1]. I mainly use it with this really good Android client[2] (that's on F-Droid) that supports connecting to it (and Miniflux it appears, which I noticed a bunch of mentions in this thread of).

[1] https://github.com/nextcloud/news

[2] https://github.com/bubelov/news

Youtube seems to be doing some A/B testing with the comment system which has made proxies like Invidious and yt-dlp/Newpipe unable to load comments. There is a patch for Invidious [1] which solves this problem but it is not in master yet. I tested it on my own instance and it does solve the problem.

[1] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/pull/4576

BTW, I don't understand the workaround: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/pull/4552/files

Which was taken from here: https://github.com/LuanRT/YouTube.js/pull/624

Could anybody explain it to me?

Use a Youtube proxy like Invidious [1], problem solved and you get to subscribe to channels without telling the Beast about your interests. Add Sponsorblock (which supports Invidious) to get rid of any in-stream advertising which remains and you'll be transported back to those hallowed times of yore when men were men, women were women and advertising was something you found in newspapers. Youtube will try to make this harder just like Xitter is trying to make it harder to use proxies like Nitter [2].

[1] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious

[2] https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

Going to drop this here for others who haven't heard of it https://invidious.io/

Now, how do we fix this? YouTube's ad model sucks. Their algorithm sucks. Their front page sucks. They've captured a bunch of creators though so often YouTube is the only place you can find someone.

I want those creators to benefit from me viewing their videos. I want the fact that I view a video and like it to help other people find that video in their recommendations. I want an algorithm that shows me things that are interesting and relevant not one that promotes the spammiest and most ad heavy videos that barely have anything to do with my watch history.

Having an alternative front end is nice but I don't want to rob YouTube of the money they spend on hosting the videos.

So, how do we do this?

Peer to peer fails when there is little interest in something or when most people leech and it sucks for archiving old content.

Hosting it all in one place is super expensive and hard for a small group to manage without turning into YouTube.

Maybe we could find a way for the creators to host their own content and get paid when people view it while being part of a large federated network for easy discoverability?

Please list any projects you know of, I'm sure there are a lot of people here who would be willing to contribute or donate.

Sometimes a half-solution will do, like Invidious or Piped.

[0] https://invidious.io/

[1] https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped