muzero-general VS forge

I went looking for MuZero implementations in order to see how, exactly, they interact with the game space. Based on this one, which had the most stars in the muzero topic, it appears that it needs to be able to discern legal next steps from the current game state https://github.com/werner-duvaud/muzero-general/blob/master/...

So, I guess for the cards Forge has implemented one could MuZero it, but I believe it's a bit chicken and egg with a "free text" game like M:TG -- in order to train one would need to know legal steps for any random game state, but in order to have legal steps one would need to be able to read and interpret English rules and card text

You may want to use the trick described in https://arxiv.org/pdf/1805.11593.pdf as a Transformed Bellman Operator. Its efficiency is proved in MuZero original paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.08265.pdf Appendix F. The implementation of that method you can find here: https://github.com/werner-duvaud/muzero-general Usage: muzero/models.py:649 (def support_to_scalar)

I have used this implementation from MuZero: https://github.com/werner-duvaud/muzero-general

+1 to taking a look at OpenSpiel. It has AlphaZero in C++ and Python, and there is even a PR open that allows running UCI (e.g. Stockfish) bot. You can also load chess via the OpenSpiel wrapper in muzero-general: https://github.com/werner-duvaud/muzero-general

When I looked up some community implementations, like that of Werner Duvaud on GitHub and Discord, hoping to make my own contributions to this effect, I soon found that I was hopelessly out of my depth as an amateur programmer, even with the help of some other sources like this walkthrough series. However, from what I could tell, most of the people working on this sort of thing seemed to be tackling relatively simple games. At first I thought this might be largely due to limitations in hobby time or computing power available to these users, but then I also noticed that, unless I have misunderstood something, it seems like the games are required to be rebuilt entirely in the engine of (this implementation of) MuZero, which would also obviously be a limit on the complexity of games chosen.

Windows support (Experimental / Workaround: Use the notebook in Google Colab)

There are several if you google "muzero github", e.g. https://github.com/werner-duvaud/muzero-general

If you like Magic The Gathering card playing game, avoid Forge (Desktop + Android) because it is open source (made in Java) and it has all the cards, gameplays, you can build your deck or choose from a huge list of ready-made ones and play against the AI and online up to 4 players in the same game I believe.

https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge

https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge/wiki/User-Guide

Please read into it if you care to criticize.

If you did want to see something like this, the MTG program Forge(https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge) has a command line tool included that allows you to pit ais against each other using different decks. It isnt terribly hard to setup, and im sure the discord server can help out as well.

The last thing I recommend to you is to download a piece of third-party software called CardForge. It lets you play Magic on your phone or your computer. It's a little clunky, but it includes all 26,000 cards, for free, and it's free, meaning you can get your hands on (IE import) other people's decks and try them out. For instance, mine. ;) You can even compare it to yours! I don't mean to be dismissive, but this will be the easiest way for you to find out what we're all talking about. I didn't find this app until... I dunno, a little before the pandemic started? But it completely changed my understanding of how to play the game... or, more accurately, let me try out decks that win at very high levels and figure out why they do. Now you can too! =)

Y'all could check out the adventure mode on Forge, pretty similar vibe!

That said, if you really want better legitimate options, go play MTG Forge! It supports every major format under the sun, has 2 dedicated RPG modes and the ability to run against gauntlets of decks. You could probably import all the Duels 2015 decks there, find a Duels 2015-esque skin, and enjoy the meta of that game that way.