msquic VS wdt

I referred to sockets as an API design, not to express an opinion on whether you should place your protocol implementations inside or outside the kernel. (Although that’s undeniably an interesting question that by all rights should have been settled by now, but isn’t.)

Even then, I didn’t mean you should reproduce the Berkeley socket API verbatim (ZeroMQ-style); multiple streams per connection does not sound like a particularly good fit to it (although apparently people have managed to fit SCTP into it[1]?). I only meant that with the current mainstream libraries[2,3,4], establishing a QUIC connection and transmitting bytestreams or datagrams over it seems quite a bit more involved than performing the equivalent TCP actions using sockets.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6458

[2] https://quiche.googlesource.com/quiche

[3] https://github.com/microsoft/msquic

[4] https://github.com/litespeedtech/lsquic

The documentation of MS QUIC says it is cross-platform, it should work on Linux, it has a CMake preset for Linux and you can download the prebuilt binary releases for Linux.

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I like the way you're thinking here, I think the limitations you mentioned with gemini may stand... for me it's kind of like the limitations generally speaking with markdown. Doesn't leave much room for doing stuff like parsing the raw data when they aren't in a hierarchical structure with xpaths you can target and stuff like that, it just throws out so much baby with the bathwater that I'm ready to scream infanticide.

Any thoughts on fast experimental protocols like warp data transfer [1] or fast and secure protocol [2] ? I know they're not exactly the most open things or wellsupported in terms of what you're looking for but I've been really wondering when we're going to start seeing pressure to relieve network congestion using stuff like this.

[1] https://github.com/facebookarchive/wdt

That's great stuff, I wonder how it compares to wdt[0] when there's only one TCP path. This has been my go-to tool to transfer files on the network.

0: https://github.com/facebook/wdt

I guess? If you’re building parallel infrastructure (vlans are not enough obviously) just for running Aspera over it might not be the worst thing ever, but that’s an expensive way to live and that’s before you pay for the A$pera licenses. There are free and better behaved platforms out there like https://github.com/facebook/wdt if you don’t want other applications’ TCP sessions to time out while you’re trying to squeeze out the last half percent with Aspera.