miller VS dasel

jq and miller[1] are essential parts of my toolbelt, right up there with awk and vim.

[1]: https://github.com/johnkerl/miller

> This works really well if your problem can be solved in one or two liners.

My personal comfort threshold is around the 100-line mark. It's even possible to write maintainable shell scripts up to 500 lines, but it mostly depends on the problem you're trying to solve, and the discipline of the programmer to follow best practices (use sane defaults, ShellCheck, etc.).

> It go bad very quickly when, say, you have two CSV files and want to join them the sql-way.

In that case we're talking about structured data, and, yeah, Perl or Python would be easier to work with. That said, depending on the complexity of the CSV, you can still go a long way with plain Bash with IFS/read(1) or tr(1) to split CSV columns. This wouldn't be very robust, but there are tools that handle CSV specifically[1], which can be composed in a shell script just fine.

So it's always a balancing act of being productive quickly with a shell script, or reaching out for a programming language once the tools aren't a good fit, or maintenance becomes an issue.

[1]: https://miller.readthedocs.io/

where mlr is from https://github.com/johnkerl/miller

if this class of problems (i.e., csv/tsv data) is your main target you may find miller (https://github.com/johnkerl/miller) much more useful in the long run

That said, you may be interested in Miller (https://github.com/johnkerl/miller) which provides similar capabilities for CSV, JSON, and XML files. It doesn't use a SQL grammar, but that's just the proverbial lipstick on the thing. I'm not the author, but I have used it and I see some parallels in use cases at the very least.

worth giving Miller a shot

CSV utilities (still haven't pick a favorite one...): https://github.com/harelba/q https://github.com/BurntSushi/xsv https://github.com/wireservice/csvkit https://github.com/johnkerl/miller

wget https://github.com/TomWright/dasel/releases/download/v2.1.2/dasel_linux_amd64 install -o root -g root -m 0755 dasel_linux_amd64 /usr/bin/dasel

https://github.com/TomWright/dasel handles JSON, TOML, YAML, XML and CSV

dasel - Comparable to jq / yq, but supports JSON, YAML, TOML, XML and CSV with zero runtime dependencies.

Another tool in this space is Dasel[1], which can handle querying/modifying JSON, YAML, TOML, XML and CSV files.

[1] https://github.com/TomWright/dasel

There also is dasel which combine jq, yq as well handling TOML, XML and CSV

dasel # most common human readable configs(json, yaml, xml...)

I have recently switched to Dasel (https://github.com/TomWright/dasel ) due to its ability to work not only with JSON but also with other formats.