miller VS csvq

jq and miller[1] are essential parts of my toolbelt, right up there with awk and vim.

[1]: https://github.com/johnkerl/miller

> This works really well if your problem can be solved in one or two liners.

My personal comfort threshold is around the 100-line mark. It's even possible to write maintainable shell scripts up to 500 lines, but it mostly depends on the problem you're trying to solve, and the discipline of the programmer to follow best practices (use sane defaults, ShellCheck, etc.).

> It go bad very quickly when, say, you have two CSV files and want to join them the sql-way.

In that case we're talking about structured data, and, yeah, Perl or Python would be easier to work with. That said, depending on the complexity of the CSV, you can still go a long way with plain Bash with IFS/read(1) or tr(1) to split CSV columns. This wouldn't be very robust, but there are tools that handle CSV specifically[1], which can be composed in a shell script just fine.

So it's always a balancing act of being productive quickly with a shell script, or reaching out for a programming language once the tools aren't a good fit, or maintenance becomes an issue.

[1]: https://miller.readthedocs.io/

where mlr is from https://github.com/johnkerl/miller

if this class of problems (i.e., csv/tsv data) is your main target you may find miller (https://github.com/johnkerl/miller) much more useful in the long run

That said, you may be interested in Miller (https://github.com/johnkerl/miller) which provides similar capabilities for CSV, JSON, and XML files. It doesn't use a SQL grammar, but that's just the proverbial lipstick on the thing. I'm not the author, but I have used it and I see some parallels in use cases at the very least.

worth giving Miller a shot

CSV utilities (still haven't pick a favorite one...): https://github.com/harelba/q https://github.com/BurntSushi/xsv https://github.com/wireservice/csvkit https://github.com/johnkerl/miller

sure can do, if you already use that shell [1], but personally I like specific tools for specific jobs such as jq [2], fx, csvq [3] etc, there's value in decoupling shells from utils (modularity, speed, innovation etc).

[1] I don't but tempted to try, like its data-types concept

[2] https://jqlang.github.io/jq/

[3] https://github.com/mithrandie/csvq

csvq

There is a way of running SQL-like queries against CSV files.

Lately I have had to do a lot of flat file analysis and tools along these lines have been a godsend. Will check this out.

My go to lately has been csvq (https://mithrandie.github.io/csvq/). Really nice to be able run complicated selects right over a CSV file with no setup at all.

csvq (https://mithrandie.github.io/csvq/)

I usually do this with awk, my largest target files being half a TB in size for a project last year (and far too large to hold entirely in RAM). There are some other utilities like csvq and csvsql both of which let you write SQL-style queries against CSV files, but I'm not sure how they perform on large files. There's a nice list of CSV manipulation tools too if any of those jog your memory.

Apparently, there were many who thought the same thing; Tools to execute SQL against CSV were trdsql, q, csvq, TextQL. They were highly functional, hoewver, had many options and no input completion. I found it just a little difficult to use.

Please check out this tool https://github.com/mithrandie/csvq

If you are looking to query nondb data with sql statements then you may want to check something like https://github.com/mithrandie/csvq (SQL for csv).