lagrange-keyboard
dometyl-keyboard
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lagrange-keyboard
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Surface finish for 3D-printed case
You can see an example in the photos of my Lagrange keyboard.
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A clamp mount accessory for the Lagrange
I was looking for a suitable example for a tutorial for my programmatic solid modeling CAD Gamma and a clamp seemed suitable. Well, I haven't started work on the tutorial yet, but here's a clamp-mount assembly for my Lagrange keyboard.
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Split keyboard - Trackball positioning
I had both my Expert Mouse and the Orb I'm now using, between the two halves of my Ergodox and now my Lagrange. Ergonomically, it is, I think, the natural choice, but perhaps the separation between the halves is larger than average in my setup.
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The Orb: a parametric trackball with BTU mounted ball and keyboard switches for buttons
As for Gamma: I wasn't really aware of CadQuery, but I did use OpenSCAD extensively, when designing my Lagrange keyboard. Gamma started as a way to address some aspects I didn't find quite satisfactory (as, to be fair, I can't say I had any real problems). Also to be fair, I used OpenSCAD through a frontend(scad-clj) translating Clojure code to its native language and some of the problems may have been due to that, but that is also one of the issues I had with OpenSCAD: why have to learn a new language when there are existing embedabble scripting languages, you might now already, of if not, which you might use elsewhere and which, having years of development, will likely be better?
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Custom to hand concave keyboards?
This is not about the Dactyl per se, but my Lagrange keyboard supports this (or at least attempts to; it's hard to guarantee that the resulting geometry will be problem-free for a given set of parameters). The build guide goes into some detail on what you're trying to do.
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Anybody had tried this kind of keycap?
I've tried it. In fact, I've designed it, I designed it as a key meant to be operated with the edge of the palm with my Lagrange keyboard. This doesn't mean it couldn't be used as a thumb key of course, but note that you could also create your own custom version of this (or other keys).
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Down the mechanical keyboard rabbit hole
I started with an ErgoDash [1], purchased because my Microsoft/Logitech split keyboards had worn out, and at the time I couldn't find a replacement with normal (not low profile) keys. It has a few additional keys compared to the Iris. I have one at work and another at home, and to make them more similar to the broken keyboards I 3D printed angled bases. I use it for 99% of my typing.
I should probably have tried a Kinesis Advantage 2 first.
I'm partway through printing/assembling a Lagrange keyboard [2] (I'm currently stuck working out how to order the circuit boards), which is similar to the Dactyl. I will add the F1-F12 keys to my print, as they're the only thing I miss -- if a shortcut in my IDE is Ctrl+Shift+F10, it's nice for it to be that, not Ctrl+Shift+Fn+0.
I made [3] to help others see what's available.
[1] https://github.com/omkbd/ErgoDash/
[2] https://github.com/dpapavas/lagrange-keyboard
[3] https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/
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Dactyl Manuform as daily driver?
I don't use a DM, but if the question is whether something like the DM could be used as a daily driver, or whether something "less radical" would be preferable, I can say that I've been using my Lagrange as a daily driver for more than a year now. Its geometry is comparable to that of the DM and, from what I can tell, it's more aggressively curved.
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Keyboards and Open-Source
I was warned by a colleague that this was a rabbit hole, then warned by people online, and I'll pass on that warning now.
I tried to help by updating and better-presenting an existing list of ergonomic mechanical keyboards: https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/
I'm using an ErgoDash¹ with a 3D-printed tilted stand, but I intend to assemble a Lagrange² "soon".
¹ https://github.com/omkbd/ErgoDash
² https://github.com/dpapavas/lagrange-keyboard
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How's concavity? Do I really need it?
Having spent quite a bit of time over the past couple of years designing a concave keyboard (the Lagrange) and therefore having a sort of vested interest, psychologically speaking, to say "yes, definitely!", I would say: depends what you mean by "worth it".
dometyl-keyboard
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Are there any choc dactyl manuform keyboards that I can print myself?
This is a 34 key choc dactyl https://github.com/geoffder/dometyl-keyboard/tree/main/things/dartyl_choc
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Are topre considered Ergonomic?
If you are fishing for something weirder, but still Topre, the Dometyl is a Dactyl offshoot that uses rubreh domehs and sliders. I have not tried it myself.
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Minimising finger movement, but not the kind of movement you're thinking
You could use domes. https://github.com/geoffder/dometyl-keyboard/ offers some technical advice and links to some products. Complex, and also expensive.
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This might be heresy, but...
You're totally not crazy... or at least not alone in this! You may want to have a look at https://github.com/geoffder/dometyl-keyboard/
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How to get top plate of Dactyl Manuform without the bulky body that drops down ?
Try "skeletal" designs such as those from bastardkb.com or one generated from dometyl.
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Don't see many failure posts,
Firstly, please consider a Skeletyl instead of a conventional Dactyl. Skeletyl has a lot less material and so is a lot faster to print. If you need more than 5x3+3 keys, you can customize your own Skeletyl style case as well: https://github.com/geoffder/dometyl-keyboard
- Any choc scultped boards ?
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My keeb family for 41% day
I made this guy https://github.com/geoffder/dometyl-keyboard/tree/main/things/dartyl_choc
- GitHub - geoffder/dometyl-keyboard: A parametric generator for designing split, concave, ergonomic keyboards written in ocaml. (Not the author but thought it was worth sharing here)
- Recently improved Dometyl generator, now with usage guide
What are some alternatives?
nyx-kb - Nyx low-profile split ergonomic keyboard
Charybdis
void_switch - 3D printable magnetic separation contactless key switch and stabilizers (OpenSCAD files)
tractyl-manuform-keyboard
Sweep - Sweep - a small promicro based keyboard inspired by the Ferris.
ErgoWarp - Design Log and OpenSCAD code repo for Custom Split Keyboard
vial-qmk - QMK fork with Vial-specific features.
dactyl-manuform-skeleton-edition-4x5
dactyl-keyboard - Web generator for dactyl keyboards.
dactyl-keyboard - Dactyl-ManuForm, a parameterized ergonomic keyboard translated into Python including a cadquery / Open CASCADE implementation.
jiaex
Lily58L-Build-Guide - Build-Guide for the Lily58L Split-Keyboard pcb.