lagrange-keyboard
dactyl-keyboard
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GNU Affero General Public License v3.0 | GNU Affero General Public License v3.0 |
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lagrange-keyboard
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Surface finish for 3D-printed case
You can see an example in the photos of my Lagrange keyboard.
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A clamp mount accessory for the Lagrange
I was looking for a suitable example for a tutorial for my programmatic solid modeling CAD Gamma and a clamp seemed suitable. Well, I haven't started work on the tutorial yet, but here's a clamp-mount assembly for my Lagrange keyboard.
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Split keyboard - Trackball positioning
I had both my Expert Mouse and the Orb I'm now using, between the two halves of my Ergodox and now my Lagrange. Ergonomically, it is, I think, the natural choice, but perhaps the separation between the halves is larger than average in my setup.
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The Orb: a parametric trackball with BTU mounted ball and keyboard switches for buttons
As for Gamma: I wasn't really aware of CadQuery, but I did use OpenSCAD extensively, when designing my Lagrange keyboard. Gamma started as a way to address some aspects I didn't find quite satisfactory (as, to be fair, I can't say I had any real problems). Also to be fair, I used OpenSCAD through a frontend(scad-clj) translating Clojure code to its native language and some of the problems may have been due to that, but that is also one of the issues I had with OpenSCAD: why have to learn a new language when there are existing embedabble scripting languages, you might now already, of if not, which you might use elsewhere and which, having years of development, will likely be better?
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Custom to hand concave keyboards?
This is not about the Dactyl per se, but my Lagrange keyboard supports this (or at least attempts to; it's hard to guarantee that the resulting geometry will be problem-free for a given set of parameters). The build guide goes into some detail on what you're trying to do.
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Anybody had tried this kind of keycap?
I've tried it. In fact, I've designed it, I designed it as a key meant to be operated with the edge of the palm with my Lagrange keyboard. This doesn't mean it couldn't be used as a thumb key of course, but note that you could also create your own custom version of this (or other keys).
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Down the mechanical keyboard rabbit hole
I started with an ErgoDash [1], purchased because my Microsoft/Logitech split keyboards had worn out, and at the time I couldn't find a replacement with normal (not low profile) keys. It has a few additional keys compared to the Iris. I have one at work and another at home, and to make them more similar to the broken keyboards I 3D printed angled bases. I use it for 99% of my typing.
I should probably have tried a Kinesis Advantage 2 first.
I'm partway through printing/assembling a Lagrange keyboard [2] (I'm currently stuck working out how to order the circuit boards), which is similar to the Dactyl. I will add the F1-F12 keys to my print, as they're the only thing I miss -- if a shortcut in my IDE is Ctrl+Shift+F10, it's nice for it to be that, not Ctrl+Shift+Fn+0.
I made [3] to help others see what's available.
[1] https://github.com/omkbd/ErgoDash/
[2] https://github.com/dpapavas/lagrange-keyboard
[3] https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/
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Dactyl Manuform as daily driver?
I don't use a DM, but if the question is whether something like the DM could be used as a daily driver, or whether something "less radical" would be preferable, I can say that I've been using my Lagrange as a daily driver for more than a year now. Its geometry is comparable to that of the DM and, from what I can tell, it's more aggressively curved.
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Keyboards and Open-Source
I was warned by a colleague that this was a rabbit hole, then warned by people online, and I'll pass on that warning now.
I tried to help by updating and better-presenting an existing list of ergonomic mechanical keyboards: https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/
I'm using an ErgoDash¹ with a 3D-printed tilted stand, but I intend to assemble a Lagrange² "soon".
¹ https://github.com/omkbd/ErgoDash
² https://github.com/dpapavas/lagrange-keyboard
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How's concavity? Do I really need it?
Having spent quite a bit of time over the past couple of years designing a concave keyboard (the Lagrange) and therefore having a sort of vested interest, psychologically speaking, to say "yes, definitely!", I would say: depends what you mean by "worth it".
dactyl-keyboard
- Viva la Revolution at Wylderbuilds
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This is my first custom keyboard and thought "how bad can hand wiring be." I've drastically underestimated the time requirement lol
I printed a hot swap compatible case from files generated using this repo from Wylder Builds. The sockets fit pretty well without glue, but not all are tight enough to never pop out. Depends on your print tolerances (mine are okayish).
- Wylderbuilds new trackball model tweaks and BRICKS for easy, cheesy tenting!
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I test printed a Dactyl case to see if I like the shape
Regarding trackball and thumb cluster variants of a Dactyl ManuForm: wylderbuilds github has pretty much the majority of, if not every, Dactyl ManuForm thumb cluster and trackball thumb cluster variations.
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Let's Design a Keyboard with Ergogen v4: Introduction – FlatFootFox
https://www.etsy.com/shop/Wylderbuilds is a place I've used in the past. They sell parts and completed keyboards, but also have a link out to github with their modifications, at https://github.com/bullwinkle3000/dactyl-keyboard. The whole dactyl space is definitely a rabbit hole, though.
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Help with choosing part for my first dactyl manuform build
There's examples of dactyl manuform cases with trackball housing (example GitHub repo), though the circular display is going to be a design topic in itself. Most likely the display protrudes from the upper inner side of case slightly, like a sky scraper roof top Helipad 😋
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How to get top plate of Dactyl Manuform without the bulky body that drops down ?
If you preferre python goto https://github.com/joshreve/dactyl-keyboard or https://github.com/bullwinkle3000/dactyl-keyboard
- Two years of Wylderbuilds??
- Now comes the hard part - getting used to it
- Presidents' Sale @ Wylderbuilds!
What are some alternatives?
nyx-kb - Nyx low-profile split ergonomic keyboard
dactyl-keyboard - Dactyl-ManuForm, a parameterized ergonomic keyboard translated into Python including a cadquery / Open CASCADE implementation.
void_switch - 3D printable magnetic separation contactless key switch and stabilizers (OpenSCAD files)
tryadactyl - Methodology for custom tuning a concave, column-staggered, split keyboard with thumb clusters (AKA Dactyl). Centered on an OpenSCAD library for designing all sorts of ortholinear-ish keyboards supporting a variety of keycaps including Cherry profile. Additionally supports trackpoints, and 5-way navigation switches.
Sweep - Sweep - a small promicro based keyboard inspired by the Ferris.
Charybdis
vial-qmk - QMK fork with Vial-specific features.
keyboard-pcbs - Keyboard PCBs
dactyl-keyboard - Web generator for dactyl keyboards.
nijuni - 44-key split keyboard with the Jian's stagger and the Corne's thumb cluster with a wireless focus.
jiaex
qmk_firmware - keyboard controller firmware for Atmel AVR and ARM USB families