kine VS rd

Compare kine vs rd and see what are their differences.

kine

Run Kubernetes on MySQL, Postgres, sqlite, dqlite, not etcd. (by k3s-io)

rd

Container Management and Kubernetes on the Desktop (by rancher-sandbox)
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kine rd
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2.7% 1.4%
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13 days ago about 20 hours ago
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kine

Posts with mentions or reviews of kine. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-07-27.
  • Apache APISIX without etcd
    3 projects | dev.to | 27 Jul 2023
    -- Kine (Kine is not etcd)
  • Goodbye Etcd, Hello PostgreSQL: Running Kubernetes with an SQL Database
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jul 2023
    Looking at [1], is there any reason why this couldn’t run in something like DynamoDB? I feel like the operations required would fit

    https://github.com/k3s-io/kine/blob/master/pkg/drivers/gener...

  • K3s to Skill Up?
    2 projects | /r/kubernetes | 24 Jan 2023
  • What is going on with Kubernetes Microdistros?
    5 projects | /r/kubernetes | 26 Jun 2022
    I don't like some of the decisions that k3s makes which is why I stay away from it, but it's a great project. I'm not using kine yet, but I fantasize about using it exclusively every time I deal with etcd-induced slowness/random CPU spikes on my group of controller nodes. k0s supports kine too of course but I just haven't switched it on yet.
  • Databases = Frameworks for Distributed Systems
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 May 2022
    Well in some situations you can also get away with CRDTs or Gossip (SWIM), but yeah in the general sense Paxos (Raft is a Paxos-family algo). There are lots of paxos family algos to choose from[0].

    > I’m also currently building a distributed search engine using etcd for the service registry, broker peer announcements, and worker queue and it’s been a good experience so far.

    As a random stranger on the internet, please build an abstraction layer around etcd. Even if there's only one implementation, I've found that so many distributed projects that just never reach the scale that etcd is built for would benefit from the option of writing their own drivers (you don't need a full plugin system just a regular abstraction layer).

    One example is Kine[0] for k8s -- if k8s had a built in option for writing/reading from something like Postgres from the beginning it would have been a better project for it, IMO.

    If you do build a plugin system though, you can pass off the work of maintaining the other implementations!

    [0]: https://vadosware.io/post/paxosmon-gotta-concensus-them-all

    [1]: https://github.com/k3s-io/kine

  • K8s on Pg
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 May 2022
    I could spent >0s looking into this, but I've been curious how kline implements Etcd's Watch API. For the matter, I don't have much idea in general how kline handles data. Kline would be a great candidate for a blog post or introductory technical article on.

    I do quickly see one issue- evidently watches presently use polling. The issue requests use of postgres triggers: https://github.com/k3s-io/kine/issues/20

  • Kubernetes but with Hashicorp Consul instead of ETCD for the control plane?
    2 projects | /r/kubernetes | 18 Mar 2022
    check out https://github.com/k3s-io/kine
  • Building a bare-metal Kubernetes cluster on Raspberry Pi
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Nov 2021
  • Rancher Desktop, a Docker Desktop Replacement
    14 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Oct 2021
  • rqlite 6.0: the evolution of a distributed database design
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jun 2021
    Not to be mistaken for high-availability Dqlite[1], which is one of the options one can run the k3s kubernetes distribution on (instead of etcd), via the Kine etcd shim[2]. Ultimately though the K3s team replaced Dqlite with an embedded etcd to get high-availability[3].

    [1] https://dqlite.io/

    [2] https://github.com/k3s-io/kine

    [3] https://rancher.com/docs/k3s/latest/en/installation/ha-embed...

rd

Posts with mentions or reviews of rd. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-10-11.
  • Rancher Desktop v1.11.0 with Snapshots, Container Dashboard and More
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Nov 2023
  • K3s – Lightweight Kubernetes
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Oct 2023
    So, please please solve this request here: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/issues/18...
  • Rancher Desktop 1.9 released with support for Docker Extensions
    1 project | /r/rancherdesktop | 2 Jul 2023
  • Apple Virtualization Framework
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jun 2023
  • No docker options
    5 projects | /r/golang | 5 Apr 2023
  • macOS Apple Silicon version is still Intel x86?
    1 project | /r/rancher | 21 Mar 2023
  • Podman vs. Docker: Comparing the Two Containerization Tools – Linode
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Feb 2023
    https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/releases

    Then in Rancher Desktop you enable WSL integration as shown here:

  • Nginx in KinD
    1 project | /r/nginx | 8 Dec 2022
    If using rancher desktop: https://docs.rancherdesktop.io/tutorials/working-with-images/ https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/issues/952
  • New Docker Desktop: Run WASM Applications Alongside Linux Containers in Docker
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Dec 2022
    > docker desktop is pretty dead now that it's got restrictive licensing etc...

    It would probably be nice to hear more about why you think this is! I've certainly heard of some having to move away from Docker Desktop.

    However, at the scale where you need a license (250 employees or 10 million $ in annual revenue) it's not quite as big of an issue, especially at their current pricing per seat: https://www.docker.com/pricing/

    > stick to standard open source tools like Colima etc...

    Sticking to open source is a great idea!

    I think mentioning that Colima runs on macOS and Linux only at the moment is also a good idea: https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

    A large market share of the Docker Desktop installs are Windows in particular (since it's "the one way" how most install Docker nowadays, as opposed to not really needing a GUI or the supporting tools on Linux).

    In another comment I mentioned Podman Desktop as a mostly viable alternative: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop

    Then there's also Rancher Desktop as well: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop

    Regardless, it's nice to see reputable orgs behind the open source projects as well, which gives a bit more credence to their chances of surviving for the years to come.

  • Finch: An open-source client for container development
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Nov 2022
    Great, then can you speak to whether rancher-desktop supports the "--platform" argument to "run" the same way that finch does?

    I wouldn't mind answering it myself, but it looks like rancher-desktop is an electron something or other: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/blob/v1.6... and even downloading the 500MB release zip shows that there's `Rancher Desktop.app/Contents/Resources/resources/darwin/lima/bin/limactl` hidden in it, but I'm a distrustful sort and I don't want to crawl through unlimited lines of typescript to find out what this is going to do to my system

    Maybe it's just that I'm not the right audience for this, since I am the polar opposite of "some gui fanciness," as I came up through the docker-machine universe, and now colima, and thus have a lot more comfort debugging CLI tooling when something inevitably goes toes up

What are some alternatives?

When comparing kine and rd you can also consider the following projects:

kubernetes - Production-Grade Container Scheduling and Management

colima - Container runtimes on macOS (and Linux) with minimal setup

k3s - Lightweight Kubernetes

lima - Linux virtual machines, with a focus on running containers

dqlite - Embeddable, replicated and fault-tolerant SQL engine.

intellij-community - IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition & IntelliJ Platform

kilo - Kilo is a multi-cloud network overlay built on WireGuard and designed for Kubernetes (k8s + wg = kg)

multipass - Multipass orchestrates virtual Ubuntu instances

kubernetes - Production-Grade Container Scheduling and Management [Moved to: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes]

nerdctl - contaiNERD CTL - Docker-compatible CLI for containerd, with support for Compose, Rootless, eStargz, OCIcrypt, IPFS, ...

cluster-api - Home for Cluster API, a subproject of sig-cluster-lifecycle

remote-docker-aws - Remote Docker for local development hosted using AWS