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You can absolutely install the wasm shim without Desktop. (They won't tell you that because Desktop is a revenue stream for Mirantis.)
In your VM or WSL instance that's running Docker, get the shim from here: https://github.com/deislabs/containerd-wasm-shims (You might need to build it yourself)
Then specify the --runtime and --platform arguments like instructed in the doc, but with a slight modification:
--runtime=containerd-wasm-shim=/path/to/containerd/wasm/shim
This works because the container runtime is simply a Go binary, and Go binaries are completely self-contained.
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If one wants to use exactly the same command line, then one could compile https://github.com/second-state/runwasi, and place the compiled shim in the correct path.
The difference vs deislabs shims you linked or vs the containerd/runwasi (formerly deislabs/runwasi) is the exact wasm runtime used.
secondstate (that Docker Desktop includes) uses WasmEdge, containerd/runwasi uses wasmtime, and deislabs/containerd-wasm-shims uses Fermyon Spin or SpiderLighting depending on which shim you use.
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> docker desktop is pretty dead now that it's got restrictive licensing etc...
It would probably be nice to hear more about why you think this is! I've certainly heard of some having to move away from Docker Desktop.
However, at the scale where you need a license (250 employees or 10 million $ in annual revenue) it's not quite as big of an issue, especially at their current pricing per seat: https://www.docker.com/pricing/
> stick to standard open source tools like Colima etc...
Sticking to open source is a great idea!
I think mentioning that Colima runs on macOS and Linux only at the moment is also a good idea: https://github.com/abiosoft/colima
A large market share of the Docker Desktop installs are Windows in particular (since it's "the one way" how most install Docker nowadays, as opposed to not really needing a GUI or the supporting tools on Linux).
In another comment I mentioned Podman Desktop as a mostly viable alternative: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop
Then there's also Rancher Desktop as well: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop
Regardless, it's nice to see reputable orgs behind the open source projects as well, which gives a bit more credence to their chances of surviving for the years to come.
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> docker desktop is pretty dead now that it's got restrictive licensing etc...
It would probably be nice to hear more about why you think this is! I've certainly heard of some having to move away from Docker Desktop.
However, at the scale where you need a license (250 employees or 10 million $ in annual revenue) it's not quite as big of an issue, especially at their current pricing per seat: https://www.docker.com/pricing/
> stick to standard open source tools like Colima etc...
Sticking to open source is a great idea!
I think mentioning that Colima runs on macOS and Linux only at the moment is also a good idea: https://github.com/abiosoft/colima
A large market share of the Docker Desktop installs are Windows in particular (since it's "the one way" how most install Docker nowadays, as opposed to not really needing a GUI or the supporting tools on Linux).
In another comment I mentioned Podman Desktop as a mostly viable alternative: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop
Then there's also Rancher Desktop as well: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop
Regardless, it's nice to see reputable orgs behind the open source projects as well, which gives a bit more credence to their chances of surviving for the years to come.
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> docker desktop is pretty dead now that it's got restrictive licensing etc...
It would probably be nice to hear more about why you think this is! I've certainly heard of some having to move away from Docker Desktop.
However, at the scale where you need a license (250 employees or 10 million $ in annual revenue) it's not quite as big of an issue, especially at their current pricing per seat: https://www.docker.com/pricing/
> stick to standard open source tools like Colima etc...
Sticking to open source is a great idea!
I think mentioning that Colima runs on macOS and Linux only at the moment is also a good idea: https://github.com/abiosoft/colima
A large market share of the Docker Desktop installs are Windows in particular (since it's "the one way" how most install Docker nowadays, as opposed to not really needing a GUI or the supporting tools on Linux).
In another comment I mentioned Podman Desktop as a mostly viable alternative: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop
Then there's also Rancher Desktop as well: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop
Regardless, it's nice to see reputable orgs behind the open source projects as well, which gives a bit more credence to their chances of surviving for the years to come.
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Or even https://multipass.run/
Both will get you to a docker host from the desktop.
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That said, the current options are pretty low level (i.e. trying to get nerdctl running), versus the developer experience that many are familiar with.
I don't doubt that it will have some effect on Docker's market share, but saying that "Docker Desktop is pretty dead now" is perhaps getting ahead of oneself.
If anything, Podman and Rancher will have more influence in the near term, because they're (more) fully fledged and can be used today, instead of relying on software that's still very much in early active development and might have plenty of breaking changes. Not that their desktop offerings are there yet, either.
