Webpackage Alternatives

webpackage reviews and mentions

• Is Apple's ".webarchive" a future-proof format for saving web pages for viewing within the Apple eco-system?
  1 project | /r/DataHoarder | 30 Apr 2023
• Show HN: An alternative web-like system design
  1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Mar 2023

  Some of the navigating into a bundle stuff is indeed not presently happening.

  But there's a bunch of specs for signed exchanges & subresources that underpin & allow resource exchange, and which do have recent drafts. Webpackage seems to be doing OK ish. But yeah we bundles specifically do seem to be all expired.

  https://github.com/WICG/webpackage#specifications

• New Docker Desktop: Run WASM Applications Alongside Linux Containers in Docker
  8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Dec 2022
• PDFs suck. I would gladly pay extra for a better digital format.
  2 projects | /r/rpg | 2 Nov 2022

  Cool idea, but what I'm really hoping is that webpackage gets properly developed and integrated with browsers eventually. Unfortunately it probably won't happen, a tiny chunk of Google showed interest but that's about it.

• Bluesky – Authenticated Data EXperiment
  2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 May 2022

  With certificate transparency, I dont think SXG's expiration s a real barrier to adoption. The hardnosed shitty browser attitude aroumd right now: it will collapse in the face of onvious utility, other people will implememt more aspirational & liberal systems. This stance is untennable im the face of the obvious huge value of being able to lool at old signed content, particularly when coupled with certificate transparency systems. This conservative standard will is just a minimal & onvious agreeable starting place, but adoption will give way to expansion, given the immense user value of signed content. I say this as a core core protester against these pathetic loserly expiration timeouts[1].

  I get maybe not putting all your chips in SXG basket. I disagree with a bunch of the protest: this seems like a sensible, basic, obvious layered enhancement to the existimg web. Safari & Mozia are as is the modd today being terrible shits as usual, the regressives.

  Contrasting ADX versus SXG just feels so wild, because SXG is a small refinememt to a vast world spanning & complete ecosystem of technology that has already taken over the planet. And ADX is an standalone completely isolated alternate world, it's own reality. This tension, whether we need a baseline which is 100% new & novel & redefines the entire problem space on it's own terms, completely from scratch, or whether we can hack & improve & enhance what we have: I dont feel like there's any camp at all left to defend improvememt.

  Tear it all down, start over... it's the mode. I agree, this debate needs more than HM comments. But this tension & conflict, this view of the world & how it evolves or revolts: it's been trying to make revutions & insist no bounds, nothing today can possibly be good enough for tomorrow. And two plus decades latter, it's made such tiny impact, is so niche.

  I accept your snub, getting told im exasperated, but it's for a real reason, it's because these decades have failed to deliver & so few have willingly tried improving what is (Safari & Mozia being a quite vocal modern anchor keeling things in place, a modern astrpturfing shouting class against trying anything, especially). This effort does have the social capital to perhaps emerge & birth something new, but we could also just improve & greatly fix everything that ready is. With minor, layered, small, principled enhancements.

  [1] https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues/597

• Faking Twitter Unfurling to phish you
  2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Nov 2021

  signed web bundles [1] let you package up a page as a fixed resource, distributed with a signature to verify that the content of that page is what the author intended it to be, so a site like twitter that is embedding it can be sure that what they're embedding is always the original resource.

  however, this is AMP, and so everybody hates it.

  [1] https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/blob/main/explainers/sign...

• The End of Amp
  2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 May 2021

  A phyrric victory for a Web that is basically ChromeOS.

  Ever heard of Web Bundles?

  https://web.dev/web-bundles/

  https://github.com/WICG/webpackage

• GitHub blocks FLoC across all of GitHub Pages
  8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Apr 2021

  I think advertising is positive [1] and the role of ads in funding freely-available sites is very important. My current work is primarily on how browsers can allow more private and secure advertising [2][3][4] which I think most people will agree is valuable even if they are less in favor of advertising in general.

  At a lower level, I do this job because I'm paid, which allows me to donate. [5] But I wouldn't do this work if I thought it was harmful; there are lots of different kinds of jobs I could take.

  [1] https://www.jefftk.com/p/effect-of-advertising

  [2] https://github.com/google/fledge-shim

  [3] https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/161

  [4] https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues/624

  [5] https://www.jefftk.com/donations

• HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash
  1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Dec 2020

  data urls encode things in base64 format so bloat up the file. Also the user agent can't just seek over them, requiring it to parse the entire included base64 content. There are better ways, but sadly nothing cross platform:

  * https://github.com/WICG/webpackage

  * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webarchive

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