json-benchmark VS safety-dance

I don’t really understand what this is trying to prove:

- you don’t seem to specify the size of the input. This is the most important omission

- you are constructing an optimised representation (in this case, strict with fields in the right places) instead of a generic ‘dumb’ representation that is more like a tree of python dicts

- rust is not a ‘moderately fast language’ imo (though this is not a very important point. It’s more about how optimised the parser is, and I suspect that serde_json is written in an optimised way, but I didn’t look very hard).

I found[1], which gives serde_json to a dom 300-400MB/s on a somewhat old laptop cpu. A simpler implementation runs at 100-200, a very optimised implementation gets 400-800. But I don’t think this does that much to confirm what I said in the comment you replied to. The numbers for simd json are a bit lower than I expected (maybe due to the ‘dom’ part). I think my 50MB/a number was probably a bit off but maybe the python implementation converts json to some C object and then converts that C object to python objects. That might half your throughput (my guess is that this is what the ‘strict parse’ case for rustc_serialise is roughly doing).

[1] https://github.com/serde-rs/json-benchmark

But the code OP posted deserializes JSON without knowing anything about the structure, which is known to be slow in serde-json and doesn't appear to be the focus for the library. The json and json-deserializer crates should perform much better in that scenario.

Of course that doesnt mean that in practice the available libraries are as optimized. Did you try actix? It tends to be faster than rocket. Also json-rust and simd-json are usually faster than serde-json, when you don't deserialize a known structure. Here are some benchmarks: https://github.com/serde-rs/json-benchmark

The data for the test is taken from here: https://github.com/serde-rs/json-benchmark/tree/master/data

Here are some benchmarks https://github.com/serde-rs/json-benchmark

I found two projects: * https://github.com/djkoloski/rust_serialization_benchmark - doesn't use Serde zero copy * https://github.com/serde-rs/json-benchmark - has copy vs borrowed, but the results were the same for both, so something's off there

Rust has a good enough standard library (I’d say comparable to C++), that you don’t really need packages for a lot of stuff. Most of my projects have 1 or 2 dependencies. Most of the time I am pulling in a JS parser (serde) and a parallelization library (rayon). These are both high performance libraries that make writing very fast (serde can handle 850 MB/s on a 5 year old laptop cpu per their benchmarks). Rayon is one of the best parallelism libraries I’ve worked with.

[2]: https://github.com/rust-secure-code/safety-dance

The most "virtuous"/desirable statement in this topic is probably the "100% safe code now - while being faster than the C version!" on the rust-secure-code/safety-dance entry for miniz_oxide.

According to the rust-secure-code/safety-dance trophy case, their audit left miniz_oxide 100% safe and faster than the C version.

Efforts that don't try to pick winners, but just to help packages that already exist, like Rust Safety Dance and developing tools like Miri. (And that dependency-improving sprint, the name of which eludes me, but which was mentioned in TWIR a while ago.)

I'm similarly iffy on using a parser for something as web-exposed as e-mail which uses unsafe for a performance boost without a thumbs-up from someone like /u/Shnatsel and the Safety Dance.

Since this all happened, the safety-dance project has come into existence, which aims to channel the mob into doing useful things, not just piling onto someone who's got different views on what they want from Rust.

https://github.com/rust-secure-code/safety-dance is always looking for contributors.