html5ever VS serenity

Would you consider using some libraries in your project? There are lots of good ones in the Rust ecosystem, and many of them are not part of any existing browsers.

For example:

- https://github.com/servo/html5ever (HTML parsing - note: this is used in Servo)

- https://github.com/parcel-bundler/lightningcss (CSS parsing)

- https://github.com/DioxusLabs/taffy (web layout)

- https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-text (text layout and rendering)

Obviously you should be free to work on whatever you like, but just as a benchmark on the scope of your project: I spent ~6 months implementing just the CSS Grid algorithm in Taffy last year. An entire browser from literal scratch is probably a 10 year project for one person.

So I'm doing some web scraping in Rust, and so I will need to parse HTML. [scraper](https://docs.rs/scraper/latest/scraper/) (which uses [html5ever](https://github.com/servo/html5ever)) is doing fine except that it's the bottleneck of my application.

So I need a faster parser. I've tried [tl](https://docs.rs/tl/latest/tl/) which would've been perfect except that it doesn't actually work on the HTML I have. When I try to `query_selector` the elements I need, it returns nothing.

[Kuchiki](https://docs.rs/kuchiki/latest/kuchiki/) is abandonded.

I couldn't figure out how to get [lol-html](https://github.com/cloudflare/lol-html) to work for me (it's designed for re-writing HTML, whatever that means). It doesn't seem to have an API to extract the inner text of an element.

[html5gum](https://github.com/untitaker/html5gum) seems to be just an HTML tokenizer, or otherwise just too low-level. I have not yet tried [quick-xml](https://github.com/tafia/quick-xml/) but judging from the README, it's pretty low-level too. I mean, if these are the only options left then I will try them. Otherwise, I would love to use a parser that's faster but as ergonomic as `scraper` or `tl`.

At this point, I would be happy with an Lxml bridge/port of some sort. I don't need to mutate HTML, just parse and read data from it.

See https://github.com/servo/html5ever/tree/master/rcdom for an example implementation to imitate.

SerenityOS replicates that look and feel. It is also implemented in a dialect of C++ that adheres to some of the good parts of C++98: https://serenityos.org

One example of a useful technique

https://serenityos.org/ apparently only makes source code available. There are no binary images of the OS to install

I think Andreas said this functions like a little test -- if you're not willing to build it from source, then you probably wouldn't be a good contributor anyway.

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Likewise, my shell project provides source tarballs only, right now - https://www.oilshell.org/release/0.21.0/

It is packaged in a number of places, which I appreciate. That means some other people are willing to do some work.

And they provide good feedback.

I would like it to be more widely available, but yeah I definitely see that you need to "gate" peanut gallery feedback a bit, because it takes up a lot of time.

Of course, it's a tricky balance, because you also want feedback from casual users, to make the project better.

Indeed, given the existence of `JS::NonnullGCPtr`, `JS::GcPtr` intentionally corresponds to a nullable pointer, so it seems dangerous to convert one to a reference without a null-check.

That said, a naive code search finds what *may* be more cases of this pattern:

https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ASerenityOS%2Fserenity+%2F...

Eg: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/a68b134e6dea5065... -> https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/a68b134e6dea5065...

In some of those search results, it is fine because there is a preceding null-check, and obviously I know nothing about this code other than this naive search result, but perhaps it would be prudent to vet all of them.

It is a SerenityOS project. You can find the answer to that question in their primary project's FAQ[1].

1. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/blob/master/Documenta...

https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity

The best way to write proper exception free C++ is not to use the C++ Standard Library.

I initially confused it with Serenity OS prior to watching the video: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity

My contributions to SerenityOS[0] helped me get my current job. My team lead (who was also my interviewer) was interested in what I did since I listed some of it in my CV, and I showed him some PRs I made and explained what went into each of them. It was really exciting because I didn't have professional experience with low-level development, and basically got the job due to hobby programming.

[0]: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pulls?q=is%3Apr+autho...

Definitely not "literally impossible", just a great deal of work. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Ladybird