html5ever VS tersenet

Would you consider using some libraries in your project? There are lots of good ones in the Rust ecosystem, and many of them are not part of any existing browsers.

For example:

- https://github.com/servo/html5ever (HTML parsing - note: this is used in Servo)

- https://github.com/parcel-bundler/lightningcss (CSS parsing)

- https://github.com/DioxusLabs/taffy (web layout)

- https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-text (text layout and rendering)

Obviously you should be free to work on whatever you like, but just as a benchmark on the scope of your project: I spent ~6 months implementing just the CSS Grid algorithm in Taffy last year. An entire browser from literal scratch is probably a 10 year project for one person.

So I'm doing some web scraping in Rust, and so I will need to parse HTML. [scraper](https://docs.rs/scraper/latest/scraper/) (which uses [html5ever](https://github.com/servo/html5ever)) is doing fine except that it's the bottleneck of my application.

So I need a faster parser. I've tried [tl](https://docs.rs/tl/latest/tl/) which would've been perfect except that it doesn't actually work on the HTML I have. When I try to `query_selector` the elements I need, it returns nothing.

[Kuchiki](https://docs.rs/kuchiki/latest/kuchiki/) is abandonded.

I couldn't figure out how to get [lol-html](https://github.com/cloudflare/lol-html) to work for me (it's designed for re-writing HTML, whatever that means). It doesn't seem to have an API to extract the inner text of an element.

[html5gum](https://github.com/untitaker/html5gum) seems to be just an HTML tokenizer, or otherwise just too low-level. I have not yet tried [quick-xml](https://github.com/tafia/quick-xml/) but judging from the README, it's pretty low-level too. I mean, if these are the only options left then I will try them. Otherwise, I would love to use a parser that's faster but as ergonomic as `scraper` or `tl`.

At this point, I would be happy with an Lxml bridge/port of some sort. I don't need to mutate HTML, just parse and read data from it.

See https://github.com/servo/html5ever/tree/master/rcdom for an example implementation to imitate.

Is it able to show actual videos or is that just to make the demo more interesting and inserted externally?

I would like to combine something like this with https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet or some of those ideas.

Here's an idea I had that is a bit related https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

Although I may never have time to actually work on it. Especially since it will be a complete waste of time unless I can get a huge number of people to adopt it.

"Writing a browser" (from scratch) at this point basically means you are implementing a type of portable operating-system-in-a-box (the web platform) and that it will be compatible with whatever Google decides to add to theirs.

The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs, and such a challenge to keep up with Google's constant churn of new features and total dominance, that not even Microsoft could do it.

Here is my somewhat related pet project: Tersenet. https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

I loved playing around with Gemini. Something loosely along those lines can definitely work. Who knows what will become popular in the future. Extreme web page bloat leaves the door open.

Here are a couple of other alternative ideas for the web:

https://freenet.org/

https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet (an idea, not implemented)

I might make a new version of this http://vintagesimulator.com with VR support.

Or actually build this https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

What I have been thinking about for a few years is a SaaS that takes a video stream and in real-time outputs a 3d reconstruction with separate posed meshes, or maybe even some type of (CAD-like) boundary representation.

It should be possible to use NeRFs to create a VR "teleportation" application.

Also I think that VR or mixed reality user interfaces should be 3D and possibly haptic, and that doing everything in 2d windows in VR doesn't make much sense. So there will eventually be an OS for mixed reality that has 3D widgets or components that can interact and have interesting interfaces.

It will also soon be possible to "clone" a person using dynamic NeRF-like technology combined with new multimodal models of behavior and cognition. Such as take every script from the Colbert show, feed it into a model that combines a LLM with gestures and some visual/spatial correspondence. Automatically create a late night monologue.

Seems really interesting so I have been Googling to try to figure out what you are talking about. Is the Hydraulic product a way to easily deploy GraalVM software? And maybe by adding some type of search and document browsing capability, it can become a new type of web browser?

Could you take a look at my comment in this thread and also at https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

I have not totally updated that but my current thinking is that we really want to finish deconstructing the overlay operating system that the "web browser" has become. For example, we should actually not bundle the information browsing program and application VM together, but rather have a simple standard for them to work together. Such as, the info browser can save the list of the application binaries to a file that the VM system knows to watch.

We also actually want to further decompose this into a multilevel window manager concept. On the first level, just a rule that applications save and reload window layouts.

I really think it should be a goal to standardize on some web assembly extension with simple UI features like canvas or framebuffer and keyboard events.

We should be working on an alternative paradigm. https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

Wow hello famous person.

This weekend I got back to doing a little bit of work on my TerseNet concept, inspired by one of your articles "https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/adblocking-how-about-n..." and things like the Gemini Protocol with the idea of combating monopolies by making protocols simple enough for the average programmer or small team to implement them.

https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet -- still just some ideas, not an actual prototype.