hillside VS samoklava

Only two thumb keys seems like it could be a pain. I don't love trying to figure out the timing delays for tap vs hold. After a long search I settled on the Hillside 46 [1][2] which has 4 thumb keys and a splayed layout. Also choc spacing, as I didn't love the gaps between choc keycaps with mx spacing. Not sure why, as the macbook pro keyboard doesn't seem to give me any problems.

I like the all the case options and mods available to the ZSA keyboards. The biggest problem with building your own I feel is the cost of getting a nice, solid feeling case.

[1] https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside/tree/main/hillside46

There are a few things that are close: * The Cantor/Piantor: more aggressive stagger and slightly changed thumb cluster. * The Swept Corne: essentially a big sweep. * The Hillside 46/48: This comes in many forms which are very similar to what you are looking for. Essentially an extra aggressive stagger (and perhaps splayed) Corne with a bigger thumb cluster.

I don’t have personal experience no. If you want to compare, here is a image of the key location: https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside/blob/main/hillside46/doc/image/hill46_keys.png others exist for the other sizes in similar places. You can print this out, making sure you size so that the keys are properly spaced, and then compare that way

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the first thing that pops into my head is something like the Hillside 52/56?

I'd recommend a Hillside. If you're not into the splay, there's the 48 and the 56. https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside

Hillside ? https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside

Thanks! I should have been clear but I was talking about this project that's a fork of the main : https://github.com/soundmonster/samoklava

You might have to go down the path of making your own boards, I started off based on this: https://github.com/soundmonster/samoklava It's a good resource to minimize the amount of work you have to do on kicad

There’s only one autorouter that’s a) open source and b) known to work. It’s called FreeRouting. I’ve tried to adapt it for a GitHub workflow that takes an Ergogen YAML and outputs ready-for-fab PCB Gerber files. It doesn’t work perfectly for all use cases, so it’s probably worth double-checking the result with a DRC (design rule check) run in KiCad. Watch out for shorts and opens! 🤞

I used this Ergogen-based keyboard (samoklava), plus Chocorne's layout, as a basis for mine

There’s a board called ‘samoklava’ which is pretty corne-like , just with a bit wider thumb-splay and pinky-stagger https://github.com/soundmonster/samoklava

There is samoklava and rae-dux, and you can look through the layouts listed in this comparison tool for more. As for ones with a trackball, the Charybdis and its nano variant come to mind.

18 let half, wireless: https://github.com/soundmonster/samoklava

It's like completely generated and autorouted. Amazing. https://github.com/soundmonster/samoklava