hREA VS Zulip

If you’re curious, REA stands for Resource-Event-Agent. The h is for Holochain software implementation of that accounting framework. Dive deeper into hREA: 🕸️ Full Ecosystem Session: https://youtu.be/WsIut-gtCvQ 🕸️ hApp spotlight: https://blog.holochain.org/happs-spotlight-hrea-a-private-messenger-app/ 🕸️ GitHub: https://github.com/h-REA/hREA 🕸️ Website: https://hrea.io 🕸️ Get involved: https://discord.gg/um4UsxdFDk 🧩 #HolochainOpenDev 🧩

> Also get tired of the aspirational rants of how it is going to fix supply chains and offer banking to the underserved communities. And yes, I understand banking, supply chains, and crypto enough to know that that will never happen.

agreed. have you heard of hREA [1] and http://valueflo.ws, by Bob and Lynn from http://mikorizal.org? it's sort of an open source SAP alternative, that is designed as local-first software. it uses the REA accounting method [2] to implement LETS or mutual credit type economic networks for cooperatives / small business ecosystem / commons based peer production / any transitional/solidarity economies.

Bonfire is also implementing Valueflows vocabulary on ActivityPub [3].

[1] https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea

[2] http://www.jeffsutherland.org/oopsla97/haugen.html

[3] https://bonfirenetworks.org/

are running encrypted app code for them so that they can take part in the app/network, without having the required technical chops (the holofuel currency measures processing power). the FAQ does a good job of explaining it a bit more: https://holo.host/faq/

i'm not super interested in the whole holo thing (they sold holofuel hosting credits). i am glad they did it because it meant the team could ramp up development.

about the marx and engels thing. i am most excited about the potential for http://valueflo.ws on top of holochain [3], because it will allow us to move away from today's Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software, into a new paradigm of Network Resource Planning (ERP) software, that i hope will have a big impact on supply chains of the next economy (socialist).

[1] https://github.com/holochain/holochain

[2] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/holo-take-back-the-intern...

[3] https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea

Check out the holochain project as well as valueflo.ws/hREA projects. There is a lot of work being done on "next-economy"/post-capitalist technology in the "web3" space. Some other people to check out in that space are Arthur Brock and Mikorizal software.

Might want to check out the Holo-REA github for the latest implementation of some of these ideas being built on Holochain: https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea

Example, Valueflo.ws is based on, if I understand it correctly, Resource-Event-Agent (REA) accounting, as an alternative to traditional double entry bookkeeping, and an implementation of these are ideas are currently being built on Holochain, as Holo-REA.

Something that really blew my hair back is hREA - a combination of the Resources Events Agents (REA) accounting method, with the distributed application framework holochain. It's fully open source: https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea

This is a fun intro: http://mikorizal.org/futures.html

Check out Valueflo.ws / hREA (formerly HoloREA): https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea

Zulip — Real-time chat with a unique email-like threading model. The free plan includes 10,000 messages of search history and File storage up to 5 GB. also, it provides a self-hostable open-source version.

(1) Zulip Chat - https://zulip.com/ - seems to be reasonably popular, but more people should know about it

I’ve been using it for over 5 years now [1], and it’s as good as ever. It’s way faster than any other chat app I’ve used. It has a good UI and conversation model. It has a simple and functional API that lets me curl threads and write blog posts based on them.

(only problem is that I Ctrl-+ in my browser to make the font bigger – I think it’s too dense for most people)

(2) re2c regex to state machine compiler - https://re2c.org

A gem from the 90’s, which people have done a great job maintaining and improving (getting Go and Rust target support in the last few years). I started using it in 2016, and used for a new program a few months ago. I came to the conclusion that it should have been built into C, because C has shitty string processing – and Ken Thompson both invented C AND brought regular languages to computing !!

In comparison, treesitter lexers are very low level, fiddly, and error prone. I recently saw dozens of ad hoc fixes to the tree-sitter-bash lexer, which is unsurprising if you look at the structure of the code (manually crawling through backslashes and braces in C).

https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter-bash/blob/master/...

These fixes are definitely appreciated, but I think it indicates a problem with the model itself.

(based on https://lobste.rs/s/endspx/software_you_are_thankful_for#c_y...)

[1] https://www.oilshell.org/blog/2018/04/26.html

A few more truly in the vibe of open source projects not advertising their hosting providers: https://plane.so/ , https://element.io/ , https://www.loomio.com/ , https://zulip.com/ , and it keeps going... Very few open source projects, in the FOSS sense, are advertising their hosting provider.

I was so excited to see this happen!

I'm not a customer of yours, but your blog posts inspired me a lot. Your journey through quitting caffeine is a great and heartening read.

I've got two things to say;

1) Will you consider source-availabling the web portal (app.keygen.sh) too? Some enterprises could use it for easy management/support for custoner's licenses. Although now that I think about it, it could also discourage custom, more suitable implementations for each use-case... I'm torn on this one. I would like to see it available on GitHub too just out of curiosity too. It's very beautiful.

2) For a team + customers' chat, I cannot recommend Zulip enough. It's a joy to use and has the most innovative chat system I've ever seen. https://zulip.com

I hope your business keeps prospering!

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Anyways, I'm an internet stranger, not a social media expert. So let me know what you all think. And if we make a discord or zulip or something to make this a reality, let me know and I'd love to help any way I can.