substrate VS Alpine.js

Compare substrate vs Alpine.js and see what are their differences.

substrate

Create native Java(FX) apps for desktop, mobile and embedded (by gluonhq)

Alpine.js

A rugged, minimal framework for composing JavaScript behavior in your markup. (by alpinejs)
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substrate Alpine.js
6 242
368 26,798
1.6% 1.8%
5.9 9.3
about 1 month ago 5 days ago
Java HTML
GNU General Public License v3.0 only MIT License
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substrate

Posts with mentions or reviews of substrate. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-06-20.
  • Building a Slack/Discord Alternative with Tauri/Rust
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Jun 2023
    Haha, it's amusing that the history essays are one of the things you remember :)

    Yes you can compile Scala and ScalaFX apps down to native binaries this way. Look at Gluon Substrate:

    https://github.com/gluonhq/substrate

    One of our customers is experimenting with shipping such apps with Conveyor. There's a discussion ongoing here:

    https://github.com/hydraulic-software/conveyor/discussions/6...

    We got a console hello world working, albeit the DX is a bit rough. You need some ugly config boilerplate and some additional Native Image json files. But, it works, at least enough to create a Mac package with the regular Conveyor feature set. There are some limits though. I think the WebView doesn't work when the app is natively compiled this way.

    If it all starts working well it could be quite interesting for desktop app development, as suddenly you could use high level languages and portable UI toolkits but with the sort of startup time, performance and memory usage you'd expect from native apps (modulo binary size which is still quite large). If you want to use HTML as the UI then you can use the Chromium Embedding Framework, which would give you an Electron-like experience but with many more available languages:

    https://hydraulic.dev/blog/13-deploying-apps-with-jcef.html

    I've been using JVM GUI for years for various tasks. It was appropriate for Bitcoin tasks because it's immune to injection attacks, because you can run everything locally with P2P protocols like the original Bitcoin app did, it's portable etc. Also I learned GUI programming decades ago and find classical UI toolkit concepts like VBox, HBox, StackPane, TableView etc more intuitive than HTML.

  • GraalVM Native Image — Faster, Smarter, Leaner
    6 projects | /r/java | 25 Apr 2023
    I ran into quite a few issues during Android/iOS development (e.g. java.util.prefs and GraalVM pulling in unused methods), but Windows was comparatively smooth. Most of my issues were related to understanding the toolchain,e.g., not knowing how arguments are passed to run.
  • Question on JavaFX web applications
    6 projects | /r/JavaFX | 1 Feb 2023
    With JavaFX and Gluon Substrate + GraalVM you can even compile you app to an executable.
  • What is your experience with GraalVM Native?
    5 projects | /r/java | 14 Jun 2022
    missing methods in Android library
  • How does Gluon's GraalVM based substrate work?
    3 projects | /r/java | 4 Sep 2021
    Hello, I've recently stumbled across this project from Gluon and I've been wondering for some days how the project actually works. I've read the source code, but it appears that no code is responsible for implementing the hundreds of classes that make up JavaFX. Does this mean that JavaFX can work out of the box on IOS and Android but there didn't use to be a way to compile the code to a native executable for said platforms? Thanks in advance
  • Experiences with ZGC on JavaFX?
    1 project | /r/JavaFX | 21 Mar 2021
    Don't tested memory difference myself yet but maybe your solution could be to convert to native with graalvm and gluon substrate? https://github.com/gluonhq/substrate

Alpine.js

Posts with mentions or reviews of Alpine.js. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-09.
  • Biometric authentication with Passkeys
    3 projects | dev.to | 9 Mar 2024
    Alpine.js for reactive frontend
  • 🤓 My top 3 Go packages that I wish I'd known about earlier
    6 projects | dev.to | 1 Mar 2024
    ✨ In recent months, I have been developing web projects using GOTTHA stack: Go + Templ + Tailwind CSS + htmx + Alpine.js. As soon as I'm ready to talk about all the subtleties and pitfalls, I'll post it on my social networks.
  • Htmx Is Composable?
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jan 2024
    > But honestly, torn towards htmx but undecided.

    We are in the middle of migrating from our monster react application into server rendered pages (with jinja2). The velocity at which we are able to ship and the reduction of complexity has been great so far.

    Managing client side state for simple things like (is the dropdown open/closed), listening to keyboard events and such can be done with something like alpine-js [1] without all the baggage that something like react brings.

    It appears this is already the trend with JS frameworks too - with server side rendering being the new norm.

    [1] https://alpinejs.dev/

  • Pocketbase: Open-source back end in 1 file
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Jan 2024
  • Coming to grips with JS: a Rubyist's deep dive
    16 projects | dev.to | 29 Dec 2023
    Sure, you can use any number of JS-avoidance libraries. I'm a fan of Turbo, and there's also htmx, Unpoly, Alpine, hyperscript, swup, barba.js, and probably others.
  • What is your opinion about developers who do direct DOM manipulations instead of using modern web frameworks (like React, Vue, Angular) to achieve maximum performance?
    1 project | /r/webdev | 6 Dec 2023
    Direct DOM, but with a library. Specifically AlpineJS since it follows Vue closely in design practices allowing me to scale into a full web application if necessary (basically swapping to Vue takes minimal work). The Morph plugin is specifically what I like using.
  • Kicking the tires with NestJS and Hotwire: Part II
    2 projects | dev.to | 15 Nov 2023
    If you want more details on the initial setup I encourage you to take a look at the Part I that covers more of the initial implementation. For this portion, I added Prisma as an ORM, a frontend style library called Tachyons, and AlpineJS to handle any client-side interactions. I did this to avoid needing to add a client-side bundler to the build and instead just rely on plain old module imports to compose the frontend. This is now the default for Rails and it is quite nice to not need any additional build tools for the client.
  • Deveplop a simple GUI app by Wails use Golang
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Nov 2023
    - [swallow-pywebview](https://github.com/rangwea/swallow-pywebview): Base on [pywebview](https://pywebview.flowrl.com/) using Python,the frontend base on [alpinejs](https://alpinejs.dev/) and [tailwindcss](https://tailwindcss.com/)。
  • How to Make an Animated Number Counter with Tailwind CSS
    1 project | dev.to | 3 Oct 2023
    If you’ve followed our other tutorials, you might be familiar with Alpine.js. It’s a lightweight JavaScript library that allows you to add interactivity to your site without writing a single line of JavaScript. It’s incredibly easy to use, and we’ll show you how to make the animation trigger when the user scrolls to it.
  • A First Look at HTMX and How it Compares to React
    6 projects | dev.to | 18 Sep 2023
    The approach is not new, essentially a variation of Knockout, Alpine, and similar "JS-in-HTML" approaches.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing substrate and Alpine.js you can also consider the following projects:

JFoenix - JavaFX Material Design Library

Svelte - Cybernetically enhanced web apps

jfx - JavaFX mainline development

petite-vue - 6kb subset of Vue optimized for progressive enhancement

Recaf - The modern Java bytecode editor

htmx - </> htmx - high power tools for HTML

avaje-inject - Dependency injection via APT (source code generation) ala "Server-Side Dagger DI"

React - The library for web and native user interfaces.

usb-serial-for-android - Android USB host serial driver library for CDC, FTDI, Arduino and other devices.

Stimulus - A modest JavaScript framework for the HTML you already have [Moved to: https://github.com/hotwired/stimulus]

scalaonandroid - A tutorial and examples of how to write Android apps in Scala 2.13 and Scala 3.

hyperscript - Create HyperText with JavaScript.