espup VS tauri

https://github.com/esp-rs/espup/issues/19 https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/1355

Thanks for mentioning it. I already tried using it a few months ago and brushed it off as still being a WIP, but it still didn't work when I tried again just a few days ago. Asking in the Matrix chat when first trying it sadly only got me a "works for me" from the developers.

What Espressif is doing with their esp-idf and porting it to Rust is promising, but overall it still needs work. Using the toolchain to develop on the ESP32 was at least slightly painful half a year ago before they introduced espup[1], having to keep a patched LLVM around etc., and supposedly support for their Xtensa architecture is coming to LLVM soon[2] so this will improve in the future.

I'd also love to see Bluetooth support in esp-idf-svc[3], but they seem to be lacking people with the required knowledge to design and implement an abstraction for it[4].

[1]: https://github.com/esp-rs/espup

The environment setup can now be done with espup, its a Rust tool that replaces the bash scripts and also works in Windows.

Installing it locally should be relatively simple with espup, let me know if you finally decide to go for this option and have some questions!

We even have our own installer (written in Rust of course :D) - https://github.com/esp-rs/espup

Hi, dear Tauri! Long time no see. I published my first post, Developing a Desktop Application via Rust and NextJS. The Tauri Way almost a year ago. Since then, Tauri has become stronger. I'm happy about that! And now, I am very pleased to make a useful contribution to the Tauri community. As a full-stack developer, I frequently face situations where I need to start a DB-based UI project as fast as possible. It's stressful if I need to start the project from 100% scratch. I prefer to keep some boilerplates on hand, which will save me time and nerves and will be the subject of this article.

Hey Thanks!

Just electron & vite. I might actually migrate off electron, Tauri (https://tauri.app/) seems to be getting more stable and it's gotten great reviews.

I think this is the boilerplate I used though https://github.com/cawa-93/vite-electron-builder.

Well the great thing about WebAssembly is that you can port QT or anything else to be at a layer below -- thanks to WebAssembly Interface Types[0] and the Component Model specification that works underneath that.

To over-simplify, the Component Model manages language interop, and WIT constrains the boundaries with interfaces.

IMO the problem here is defining a 90% solution for most window, tab, button, etc management, then building embeddings in QT, Flutter/Skia, and other lower level engines. Getting a good cross-platform way of doing data passing, triggering re-renders, serializing window state is probably the meat of the interesting work.

On top of that, you really need great UX. This is normally where projects fall short -- why should I use this solution instead of something like Tauri[2] which is excellent or Electron?

[0]: https://github.com/WebAssembly/component-model/blob/main/des...

[1]: https://github.com/WebAssembly/component-model/blob/main/des...

[2]: https://tauri.app/

Welcome to the 2nd episode of our series “Building with Tauri”, where we chat with developers who build amazing projects and products using Tauri.

Tauri seemed like the "thing" I should switch to because everybody loves Rust (heh), and because it ships significantly smaller apps.

First of all, I will be using npm as my package manager but feel free to use whatever you prefer. Find more info here.

Today I'm talking about Tauri! Do you know all the various tools that allow you to develop native applications starting from web languages? They often need an intermediate compilation, in the middle of which you end up encountering various problems not always transparent and directly solvable with a language mostly detached from native development. On the other hand, there's still the ease of developing attractive and easily usable interfaces, which are more difficult to develop with low level languages.