duckdb-wasm VS explorer

i think duckdb-wasm is closer to 6MB over wire, but ~36MB once decompressed. (see net panel when loading https://shell.duckdb.org/)

the decompressed size should be okay since it's not the same as parsing and JITing 36MB of JS.

Hey HN! We’ve built Pretzel, an open-source data exploration and visualization tool that runs fully in the browser and can handle large files (200 MB CSV on my 8gb MacBook air is snappy). It’s also reactive - so if, for example, you change a filter, all the data transform blocks after it re-evaluate automatically. You can try it here: https://pretzelai.github.io/ (static hosted webpage) or see a demo video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73wNEun_L7w

You can play with the demo CSV that’s pre-loaded (GitHub data of text-editor adjacent projects) or upload your own CSV/XLSX file. The tool runs fully in-browser—you can disconnect from the internet once the website loads—so feel free to use sensitive data if you like.

Here’s how it works: You upload a CSV file and then, explore your data as a series of successive data transforms and plots. For example, you might: (1) Remove some columns; (2) Apply some filters (remove nulls, remove outliers, restrict time range etc); (3) Do a pivot (i.e, a group-by but fancier); (4) Plot a chart; (5) Download the chart and the the transformed data. See screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/qO4yURI

In the UI, each transform step appears as a “Block”. You can always see the result of the full transform in a table on the right. The transform blocks are editable - for instance in the example above, you can go to step 2, change some filters and the reactivity will take care of re-computing all the cells that follow, including the charts.

We wanted Pretzel to run locally in the browser and be extremely performant on large files. So, we parse CSVs with the fastest CSV parser (uDSV: https://github.com/leeoniya/uDSV) and use DuckDB-Wasm (https://github.com/duckdb/duckdb-wasm) to do all the heavy lifting of processing the data. We also wanted to allow for chained data transformations where each new block operates on the result of the previous block. For this, we’re using PRQL (https://prql-lang.org/) since it maps 1-1 with chained data transform blocks - each block maps to a chunk of PRQL which when combined, describes the full data transform chain. (PRQL doesn’t support DuckDB’s Pivot statement though so we had to make some CTE based hacks).

There’s also an AI block: This is the only (optional) feature that requires an internet connection but we’re working on adding local model support via Ollama. For now, you can use your own OpenAI API key or use an AI server we provide (GPT4 proxy; it’s loaded with a few credits), specify a transform in plain english and get back the SQL for the transform which you can edit.

Our roadmap includes allowing API calls to create new columns; support for an SQL block with nice autocomplete features, and a Python block (using Pyodide to run Python in the browser) on the results of the data transforms, much like a jupyter notebook.

There’s two of us and we’ve only spent about a week coding this and fixing major bugs so there are still some bugs to iron out. We’d love for you to try this and to get your feedback!

Amazing, I was eagerly waiting for this one. Loading extensions in previous DuckDB-WASM releases didn't work seamlessly. Looks like now it's the case :D

ref: https://github.com/duckdb/duckdb-wasm/issues/1542#issuecomme...

Thanks!!

Btw, it's already happening:

Go to https://shell.duckdb.org, and type

I like Pandas, but you will love duckdb, which is solving this exact problem: https://duckdb.org/; https://shell.duckdb.org/

There's also https://shell.duckdb.org/ for playing around.

I know xls != csv, but would be cool to compare against https://github.com/duckdb/duckdb-wasm as well

The Explorer library [0] in Elixir uses Polars underneath it.

[0] https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer

To ensure you do not miss this: LiveBook comes with a Vega Lite integration (https://livebook.dev/integrations -> https://livebook.dev/integrations/vega-lite/), which means you get access to a lot of visualisations out of the box, should you need that (https://vega.github.io/vega-lite/).

In the same "standing on giant's shoulders" stance, you can use Explorer (see example LiveBook at https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer/blob/main/notebo...), which leverages Polars (https://www.pola.rs), a very fast DataFrame library and now a company (https://www.pola.rs/posts/company-announcement/) with 4M$ seed.

Already exists. Check out https://github.com/elixir-nx/explorer which provides a tidyverse-like API in Elixir using polars as the back end.

José from the Livebook team. I don't think I can make a pitch because I have limited Python/R experience to use as reference.

My suggestion is for you to give it a try for a day or two and see what you think. I am pretty sure you will find weak spots and I would be very happy to hear any feedback you may have. You can find my email on my GitHub profile (same username).

In general we have grown a lot since the Numerical Elixir effort started two years ago. Here are the main building blocks:

* Nx (https://github.com/elixir-nx/nx/tree/main/nx#readme): equivalent to Numpy, deeply inspired by JAX. Runs on both CPU and GPU via Google XLA (also used by JAX/Tensorflow) and supports tensor serving out of the box

* Axon (https://github.com/elixir-nx/axon): Nx-powered neural networks

* Bumblebee (https://github.com/elixir-nx/bumblebee): Equivalent to HuggingFace Transformers. We have implemented several models and that's what powers the Machine Learning integration in Livebook (see the announcement for more info: https://news.livebook.dev/announcing-bumblebee-gpt2-stable-d...)

* Explorer (https://github.com/elixir-nx/explorer): Series and DataFrames, as per this thread.

* Scholar (https://github.com/elixir-nx/scholar): Nx-based traditional Machine Learning. This one is the most recent effort of them all. We are treading the same path as scikit-learn but quite early on. However, because we are built on Nx, everything is derivable, GPU-ready, distributable, etc.

Regarding visualization, we have "smart cells" for VegaLite and MapLibre, similar to how we did "Data Transformations" in the video above. They help you get started with your visualizations and you can jump deep into the code if necessary.

I hope this helps!

There's a package in the Nx ecosystem called Explorer (https://github.com/elixir-nx/explorer). It uses bindings for the rust library, polars, which is much more betterer than Pandas.

FWIW around April this year I started using erlport with python polars in a production ETL app because explorer didn't have the features I needed at the time.

Machine learning is rapidly expanding within the Elixir ecosystem, with tools such as Nx, Axon, and Explorer being used both by individuals and companies such as Amplified, as mentioned above.