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dream
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Ask HN: What Happened to Elm?
> It sounds like you read my statement as "run the exact same code in node or OCaml" which I agree would have been very hard.
Hello! Indeed, I did misunderstand you. I agree that it was possible to share some parts of the code between Reason's JS target with BuckleScript, and native target with the stock OCaml compiler. I think a pretty reasonable number of people did that. Actually, it's still possible to this day even with ReScript e.g. https://github.com/aantron/dream/tree/master/example/w-fulls...
> Between the breaking changes and the general change in development philosophy...switching to the ReScript compiler for my project would have required nearly a complete rewrite.
There were perhaps a couple of minor breaking changes but can you explain why it would have required a near complete rewrite? I wasn't aware of anything major like that. ReScript even supported and as far as I know, to this day continues to support the old Reason syntax.
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Functional Reactive Programming
> you might want to check out OCaml for general purpose programming
Any tips on backend frameworks to look at? I need to write a small websocket service for a side-project and have always wanted to try OCaml. I came across https://github.com/aantron/dream.
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so people are making these
The framework I played around with for OCaml was called Dream: https://github.com/aantron/dream. I think it had built-in support for auth, but I didn't use it in what I was doing. I also barely scratched the surface of what it supported. On the whole, it seemed really nice though. The biggest issues I had were figuring out OCaml since I'd literally never used it before and figuring out how to make an HTTP call from within OCaml since the documentation can be iffy. Thankfully, Dream's documentation was actually reasonably good.
- The New OCaml Website
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Dream – Tidy Web Framework for OCaml and ReasonML
Yes. OCaml + all of the 3 OCaml-to-JS compilers support OCaml syntax.
Dream itself demonstrates:
- Server and client both written in Reason, using ocamlc+Melange https://github.com/aantron/dream/tree/master/example/r-fulls...
That example could also have been written in OCaml syntax, because ocamlc (native) and Melange (JS) both support OCaml. However, Reason is nicer if you want to use React with JSX.
- Server and client both written in OCaml, using ocamlc+Js_of_ocaml https://github.com/aantron/dream/tree/master/example/w-fulls...
The remaining example uses Ocaml on the server and ReScript on the client, using the ReScript compiler. However, you could use OCaml on the client with the ReScript compiler. Just as with Melange, you would lose access to nice JSX syntax https://github.com/aantron/dream/tree/master/example/r-fulls...
It's definitely a lot and not user-friendly to have to decide between all these options, but the community is experimenting greatly right now... so it's good and bad, and that's how it is :/
As for Node.js, using ReScript syntax requires you to use Node.js on the native side, but that is the only coupling. If you write your native side in OCaml or Reason, you can compile it to native code with ocamlc (technically, ocamlopt is the internal command; nobody uses either one directly, but the build system calls them).
min-sized-rust
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The Linux Kernel Prepares for Rust 1.77 Upgrade
This is a good guide on building small Rust binaries: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust
This talks about going to extreme lengths on making the smallest Rust binary possible, 400 bytes when it was written, https://darkcoding.net/software/a-very-small-rust-binary-ind...
The thing is, you lose a lot of nice features when you do this, like panic unwinding, debug symbols, stdlib… for kernel and some embedded development it’s definitely important, but for most use cases, does it matter?
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Rust wont save us, but its ideas will
Oh it was 137, haha. I will link you to this older comment of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29408906
See also https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust
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Making Rust binaries smaller by default
Are you sure? If so then this is awesome news, but I'm a bit confused; the commit in that min-sized-rust repo adding `build-std` to the README was merged in August 2021: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust/pull/30
Are you saying that at that point the feature still hadn't "landed in Rust nightly" until recently? If so then what's the difference between a feature just being available in Rust nightly, vs having "landed"?
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Was Rust Worth It?
Rust binaries are by default nowhere close to 500MB. If they are not small enough for you, you can try https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust. By avoiding the formatting machinery and using `panic_immediate_abort` you can get about the size of C binaries.
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Compiling Rust binaries for Windows 98 SE and more: a journey
A useful reference: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust
- How to minimize Rust binary size
- Error on flashing embedded code to stm32f103
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Tiny Binaries (2021)
That must be without stripping. Also there are ways to reduce binary size. See e.g. [min-sized-rust](https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust). I've gotten stripped binaries of small cli utils less than 400KiB without doing anything special, less than 150 KiB by customizing profile settings and compressing with upx, and less than 30 KiB by replacing the std with the libc as the link shows. Haven't tried with fltk though...
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Shared libraries
This is not quite what you're asking, but it does also address the underlying concern: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust
What are some alternatives?
sihl - A modular functional web framework
smartstring - Compact inlined strings for Rust.
rescript-compiler - The compiler for ReScript.
Cargo - The Rust package manager
opium - Sinatra like web toolkit for OCaml
rustc_codegen_gcc - libgccjit AOT codegen for rustc
lwt - OCaml promises and concurrent I/O
c2rust - Migrate C code to Rust
ocaml-webmachine - A REST toolkit for OCaml
regex - An implementation of regular expressions for Rust. This implementation uses finite automata and guarantees linear time matching on all inputs.
httpaf - A high performance, memory efficient, and scalable web server written in OCaml
embedded-graphics - A no_std graphics library for embedded applications