docker-install VS Podman Desktop

curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com -o get-docker.sh sudo sh get-docker.sh # Install docker compose sudo curl -L "https://github.com/docker/compose/releases/download/1.29.2/docker-compose-$(uname -s)-$(uname -m)" -o /usr/local/bin/docker-compose # Apply executable permissions to the binary sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/docker-compose # Run Project docker-compose up -d

root@ubuntu-16gb-hel1-1:~# curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com | sh - # Executing docker install script, commit: e5543d473431b782227f8908005543bb4389b8de + sh -c apt-get update -qq >/dev/null + sh -c DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y -qq apt-transport-https ca-certificates curl >/dev/null + sh -c install -m 0755 -d /etc/apt/keyrings + sh -c curl -fsSL "https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/gpg" | gpg --dearmor --yes -o /etc/apt/keyrings/docker.gpg + sh -c chmod a+r /etc/apt/keyrings/docker.gpg + sh -c echo "deb [arch=arm64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/docker.gpg] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu jammy stable" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list + sh -c apt-get update -qq >/dev/null + sh -c DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y -qq docker-ce docker-ce-cli containerd.io docker-compose-plugin docker-ce-rootless-extras docker-buildx-plugin >/dev/null + sh -c docker version Client: Docker Engine - Community Version: 26.0.0 API version: 1.45 Go version: go1.21.8 Git commit: 2ae903e Built: Wed Mar 20 15:18:14 2024 OS/Arch: linux/arm64 Context: default Server: Docker Engine - Community Engine: Version: 26.0.0 API version: 1.45 (minimum version 1.24) Go version: go1.21.8 Git commit: 8b79278 Built: Wed Mar 20 15:18:14 2024 OS/Arch: linux/arm64 Experimental: false containerd: Version: 1.6.28 GitCommit: ae07eda36dd25f8a1b98dfbf587313b99c0190bb runc: Version: 1.1.12 GitCommit: v1.1.12-0-g51d5e94 docker-init: Version: 0.19.0 GitCommit: de40ad0 ================================================================================ To run Docker as a non-privileged user, consider setting up the Docker daemon in rootless mode for your user: dockerd-rootless-setuptool.sh install Visit https://docs.docker.com/go/rootless/ to learn about rootless mode. To run the Docker daemon as a fully privileged service, but granting non-root users access, refer to https://docs.docker.com/go/daemon-access/ WARNING: Access to the remote API on a privileged Docker daemon is equivalent to root access on the host. Refer to the 'Docker daemon attack surface' documentation for details: https://docs.docker.com/go/attack-surface/ ================================================================================ root@ubuntu-16gb-hel1-1:~# docker ps -a CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES

curl | sh is a bad practice, but lack of "curl https://get.docker.com | sh" scenario is certainly bad for Podman adoption.

sudo apt-get purge docker-ce docker-ce-cli containerd.io docker-buildx-plugin docker-compose-plugin docker-ce-rootless-extras sudo rm -rf /var/lib/docker sudo rm -rf /var/lib/containerd Install Docker curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com -o get-docker.sh sudo sh ./get-docker.sh

For Linux (using curl): curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com -o get-docker.sh && sh get-docker.sh

Install Docker (curl -sSL https://get.docker.com/ | sudo sh)

On WSL2, you just install Docker the same way as you would do on Linux. `sudo apt install docker.io` (from Debian/Ubuntu repo) or `curl https://get.docker.com | sh` (from Docker Inc). If you are using different WSL distribution, the standard way to install docker should work just fine. (e.g. `sudo pacman -S docker` works as expected on ArchWSL)

curl https://get.docker.com | bash -E

After all the resources are provisioned, I need to install Docker and pull a specific image. I will install Docker like this: curl -sSL https://get.docker.com | sh.

# 1. download the script # # $ curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com -o install-docker.sh # # 2. verify the script's content # # $ cat install-docker.sh # # 3. run the script with --dry-run to verify the steps it executes # # $ sh install-docker.sh --dry-run # # 4. run the script either as root, or using sudo to perform the installation. # # $ sudo sh install-docker.sh #

A new, search-driven command palette is now available to enable quick access to various commands available across 🦭 Podman Desktop. You can try this new tool out by hitting the F1 key. #4081 && #3979

Please share this experience and what went wrong with the postman team. It is the only way things can improve.

You don’t have to solve the problem. Just state your problem. If you need inspiration, here is an example: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/868

I wanted to try a while ago so I downloaded Podman Desktop, but I couldn't get past the initial setup due to issues in the desktop app. I was able to reproduce this on two or three Macs, can't recall exactly.

It has been a long-standing issue but seems as though it is on its way to resolution: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/1633.

I am waiting for a few months to make sure it is all sorted and will try again to see if it works then.

I'm not happy with Podman Desktop's Svelte GUI.

Antd or MUI (React) feel much more mature.

But they are working on it.

https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/pull/2863

I don't know if that's really a core difference from podman. Assuming I track your meaning Podman has GUI management as well and it can be made to integrate with system and can produce Kubernetes manifests from the pods you define locally.

Optional extensions will follow their own lifecycle and update independently from Podman Desktop. As of this release you'll be able to see when there is an update available and install from within Podman Desktop #2655.

Podman Desktop 0.15 embeds Podman 4.5 in Windows and macOS installers #2115.

u/Chunkypewpewpew it's karpersky that has a false positive https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop/issues/700

Podman Desktop has a new release: you can check milestone v0.11.0 and Release Notes

> docker desktop is pretty dead now that it's got restrictive licensing etc...

It would probably be nice to hear more about why you think this is! I've certainly heard of some having to move away from Docker Desktop.

However, at the scale where you need a license (250 employees or 10 million $ in annual revenue) it's not quite as big of an issue, especially at their current pricing per seat: https://www.docker.com/pricing/

> stick to standard open source tools like Colima etc...

Sticking to open source is a great idea!

I think mentioning that Colima runs on macOS and Linux only at the moment is also a good idea: https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

A large market share of the Docker Desktop installs are Windows in particular (since it's "the one way" how most install Docker nowadays, as opposed to not really needing a GUI or the supporting tools on Linux).

In another comment I mentioned Podman Desktop as a mostly viable alternative: https://github.com/containers/podman-desktop

Then there's also Rancher Desktop as well: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop

Regardless, it's nice to see reputable orgs behind the open source projects as well, which gives a bit more credence to their chances of surviving for the years to come.