warp VS sdk

jpackage is not the only tool for bundling Java. There is also warp-packer, an open-source tool to create self-contained binary applications from Node.js, .NET Core, and Java. warp-packer requires a similar workflow to Method 2, where you create your modified Java Runtime image and an executable script before bundling everything together into an executable.

https://github.com/dgiagio/warp just googled it, no direct experience

KeenWrite is my free, open-source, cross-platform desktop Markdown text editor developed using JavaFX. The installer script uses warp-packer to create installation-free self-extracting binaries for Windows and Linux.

My desktop text editor[1] is written using JavaFX and leans on Warp Packer[2] to create installer-free, multi-platform executable binaries (without jlink). A user contributed a new dark theme[3], which blends nicely with the desktop.

The JavaFX-based WebView (an HTML rendering component) is lauded, but has no direct API to control the scroll position and is itself a memory hog. Scrolling must be handled through JavaScript, and that indirection is as unwieldy as you can probably imagine. FlyingSaucer is a workable alternative to WebView, but comes with numerous technical issues that rear themselves when embedding a Swing widget inside a JavaFX application---as I discovered during development.

Were I to start from scratch, I would definitely seek out alternative cross-platform programming languages for desktop application development.

[1]: https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite

[2]: https://github.com/dgiagio/warp

[3]: https://i.ibb.co/QpqS0NS/screenshot.png

"Java -- possible, but you'll need a startup script to just call java -jar some-tool.jar; (also not a good fit for short-lived tools, mainly due to startup times;)"

Two technologies to look at:

* Warp Packer -- https://github.com/dgiagio/warp/

* Liberica Native Image Kit -- https://bell-sw.com/pages/liberica-native-image-kit/

Warp Packer bundles my JavaFX desktop application, KeenWrite into single binary executable files:

* https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/releases/download/2.... (Linux)

* https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/releases/download/2.... (Windows)

* https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/releases/download/2....

The start-up time for the first launch of the .bin or .exe is slow because it unpacks to a user directory. Subsequent starts are fine enough, even when running from the command-line as a short-lived task. Here's the script that creates the self-contained executable files:

https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/blob/master/installe...

To create a release for all three files, I run a single shell script from a build machine:

https://github.com/DaveJarvis/keenwrite/blob/master/release....

I could probably generate a binary for MacOS, but not enough people have asked.

[DllImport("libc")] private static extern uint geteuid(); public bool IsCurrentProcessElevated() { if (RuntimeInformation.IsOSPlatform(OSPlatform.Windows)) { // https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/blob/v6.0.100/src/Cli/dotnet/Installer/Windows/WindowsUtils.cs#L38 using var identity = WindowsIdentity.GetCurrent(); var principal = new WindowsPrincipal(identity); return principal.IsInRole(WindowsBuiltInRole.Administrator); } // https://github.com/dotnet/maintenance-packages/blob/62823150914410d43a3fd9de246d882f2a21d5ef/src/Common/tests/TestUtilities/System/PlatformDetection.Unix.cs#L58 // 0 is the ID of the root user return geteuid() == 0; }

> There's definitely things they tried to improve on that... weren't really improvements. The way "assemblies" are matched in .NET is much more sophisticated- the goal there was to try to kill DLL hell. It evolved into the Global Assembly Cache, which is sort of the Windows Registry of DLLs. Not a huge fan of those bits.

The Global Assembly Cache did not make the jump to the modern .NET (Core). There was the thing called `dotnet store`, but it’s broken since .NET 6: https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/24752

The assembly redirection hell has also been greatly reduced there.

I do the same.

I have a small write-up here: https://chrlschn.dev/blog/2023/10/end-to-end-type-safety-wit...

You get end-to-end type safety (even better once you connect it to EF Core since you get it all ways to your DB).

With this setup with hot-reload (currently broken in .NET 8 [0]), productivity is really, really good. Like tRPC but with one of the most powerful ORMs out there right now.

[0] https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/36918

Noticed an open issue just now.

You're thinking of https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/22247

That's a twisted and wrong narrative

Unity like refers to a Editor driven approach

Unity became popular with its moonscript language (javascript like), they then ditched it to focus on C#, but what propelled unity to what it is today is the Editor driven approach, not c#, not DOTS

They are forced to transpile C# to C++ via IL2CPP as a result to target consoles/mobiles

C# is a disease when it comes to console/mobile support

It's a substantial dependency, quite heavy

And you are not free of unity like fuck ups, it's a microsoft language after all:

https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/22247

And let's not forget when they changed the license of their debugger overnight to prevent people from using it in their products (jetbrains for example)

And them deprecating open source tooling to a proprietary/closed one for vscode (c# devkit)

Let's be careful when we recommend evil as an alternative to evil ;)

The script can be found at the end of the thread here https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/8742

Another difference you might be surprised by is that the .NET tooling by default collects various data from your system and sends it to Microsoft [1]. If you want to avoid this (and still want to use .NET) you'll have to make sure that the environment variable DOTNET_CLI_TELEMETRY_OPTOUT is set in all contexts before touching anything.

[1] https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/6145

SDK Pull Request

Pretty sure the final file referenced here https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/8742 is the one I am thinking of.