sdk VS ASP.NET Core

I hate to defend telemetry of all things but in this particular case the criticism is unfounded and lacks context:

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/platform/telemetry

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetr...

https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/tree/main/src/Cli/dotnet/Telem...

In any case, Debian would use https://github.com/dotnet/source-build and dotnet/dotnet, and could easily include the argument or a patch for this. It’s unlikely to be an issue. My bet it was not in Debian because there was no one to take initiative or there was but that person has faced a backlash by people in Debian who are similar to vocal minority here that posts FUD because of their little personal crusade.

FWIW telemetry can be easily opted-out, which the SDK explicitly tells you about, and there is a page that has full list of the kind of data that is collected (usage metrics and tooling crash stack traces). You can also review the metrics yourself.

About: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetr...

Collected statistics: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/platform/telemetry

Source code: https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/tree/main/src/Cli/dotnet/Telem...

In either case, many CIs simply have 'DOTNET_CLI_TELEMETRY_OPTOUT=' and call it a day.

They used to gather all command line arguments until they later decided that (oops!) it's "not acceptable per our privacy policies"[0] and they really shouldn't have been doing that. They have also had issues with anonymization not being implemented properly, the opt-out mechanism not working in some edge cases, forgetting to even tell users about the need to opt out, and who knows what else.

Also, monetary value is not the only reason you might want to keep information private.

[0] https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/6145#issuecomment-22010...

[DllImport("libc")] private static extern uint geteuid(); public bool IsCurrentProcessElevated() { if (RuntimeInformation.IsOSPlatform(OSPlatform.Windows)) { // https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/blob/v6.0.100/src/Cli/dotnet/Installer/Windows/WindowsUtils.cs#L38 using var identity = WindowsIdentity.GetCurrent(); var principal = new WindowsPrincipal(identity); return principal.IsInRole(WindowsBuiltInRole.Administrator); } // https://github.com/dotnet/maintenance-packages/blob/62823150914410d43a3fd9de246d882f2a21d5ef/src/Common/tests/TestUtilities/System/PlatformDetection.Unix.cs#L58 // 0 is the ID of the root user return geteuid() == 0; }

> There's definitely things they tried to improve on that... weren't really improvements. The way "assemblies" are matched in .NET is much more sophisticated- the goal there was to try to kill DLL hell. It evolved into the Global Assembly Cache, which is sort of the Windows Registry of DLLs. Not a huge fan of those bits.

The Global Assembly Cache did not make the jump to the modern .NET (Core). There was the thing called `dotnet store`, but it’s broken since .NET 6: https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/24752

The assembly redirection hell has also been greatly reduced there.

I do the same.

I have a small write-up here: https://chrlschn.dev/blog/2023/10/end-to-end-type-safety-wit...

You get end-to-end type safety (even better once you connect it to EF Core since you get it all ways to your DB).

With this setup with hot-reload (currently broken in .NET 8 [0]), productivity is really, really good. Like tRPC but with one of the most powerful ORMs out there right now.

[0] https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/36918

Noticed an open issue just now.

You're thinking of https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/22247

That's a twisted and wrong narrative

Unity like refers to a Editor driven approach

Unity became popular with its moonscript language (javascript like), they then ditched it to focus on C#, but what propelled unity to what it is today is the Editor driven approach, not c#, not DOTS

They are forced to transpile C# to C++ via IL2CPP as a result to target consoles/mobiles

C# is a disease when it comes to console/mobile support

It's a substantial dependency, quite heavy

And you are not free of unity like fuck ups, it's a microsoft language after all:

https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/22247

And let's not forget when they changed the license of their debugger overnight to prevent people from using it in their products (jetbrains for example)

And them deprecating open source tooling to a proprietary/closed one for vscode (c# devkit)

Let's be careful when we recommend evil as an alternative to evil ;)

The script can be found at the end of the thread here https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/8742

Multiple repos make creating a list of matching packages surprisingly hard. I learned this when working on ASP.NET Core. The framework initially consisted of a couple of dozen of repos. Our build servers were constantly grinding because of what we called "build waves." A build wave was initiated by a single commit that triggered a build. When this build finished, it triggered builds in repos depending on it. This process continued until all repos were built. Not only was this process slow and fragile, but with a steady stream of commits across all the repos, producing a list of matching packages was difficult.

Only in the .NET can you build web applications, APIs, microservices, and real-time applications in one stack. Its highly customizable nature is a good choice for startups with limited budgets. Additionally, being a Microsoft product, ASP.NET Core integrates well with other Microsoft products, such as Azure Active Directory, to deliver competitive products. You can begin building applications by reading the ASP.NET docs.

UseCors middleware should be placed before UseResponseCaching due to this bug.

1. ASP.NET Core

> Just .GetAwaiter().GetResult() it.

That won’t work with various synchronization contexts, where doing this would cause a deadlock. There’s not much fun in trying to debug such issues.

And now that various libraries only provide async api, or worse an non-async version wrapping the async one with . GetAwaiter().GetResult(), you’ll be in for a treat updating your dependencies.

Async all the way is the answer, although various frameworks still don’t offer async hooks. Recently I ran into this for example trying to write an async validator in blazor, but that’s not possible and you have to work around it [1].

C# 5 introduced async/await almost 12 years ago. And we’re still not “async all the way”.

[1]: https://github.com/dotnet/aspnetcore/issues/40244

This approach to organizing middleware enhances code readability, maintainability, and reusability. By following this encapsulation pattern, you're adhering to best practices in ASP.NET Core development, ensuring your application remains well-organized and scalable.

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https://github.com/dotnet/aspnetcore/issues/50643

Even if you look at Microsoft’s by far most popular GitHub project, they’re still only half as big as SupaBase. If you believe “the SupaBase story”, SupaBase grew and became twice as large as Microsoft in 3 years. Below is their likes over time if you’re curious, together with a couple of additional “too good to be true” Silicon Valley projects.

https://github.com/dotnet/aspnetcore/issues/10117