dd-trace-rb VS sorbet

Thing is, once you have 1) and 2), the added complexity of bringing in, integrating, and writing for a different tool to achieve 3) begins to make little sense, when you can just go along and do it just as well in rspec anyway... It's a matter of balance and heavily depends on the project.

> if you're still at Datadog

As a matter of fact I am. Feel free to shoot me an email.

    curl -s https://github.com/DataDog/dd-trace-rb/commit/176c642ca73679cabc5fa1a113bc9b600aa04dcd.patch | grep '^From:'

> For myself, I'm fine with the typing being in a separate .rbs file

We type[0] by having one separate .rbs file per .rb file. Works really well with an editor's vertical splits: type outline on one side, code on the other. That, or use something like vim-projectionist[1].

[0]: (WIP: there's a huge codebase to type, but we're progressively getting there) https://github.com/DataDog/dd-trace-rb/tree/master/sig

[1]: https://github.com/tpope/vim-projectionist

Thanks! I'll pass it on to the team :D

I've got to say, the folks at Intercom made it particularly fun. They were sending us traces and graphs from their internal systems when we trying to figure out some issues with them (e.g. we ran into this datadog context problem: https://github.com/DataDog/dd-trace-rb/issues/1389)

Not part of the official language spec, but Ruby has Sorbet, from a company who employs Ruby core contributors and helped with the recently released JIT additions to the language, amount countless other contributions over the last couple decades.

https://sorbet.org/

First let's introduce the tool: Sorbet is a gem developed by Stripe that aims to bring type notation syntax and type checking support for the Ruby ecosystem by utilizing the "Gradual typing" philosophy, it also provide type generation from YARD comments via the tapioca gem, allowing to grow alongside the already built Ruby codebase.

We have hundreds of thousands of lines of ruby code spanning many services / monoliths. Even now I find it somewhat annoying to open a controller / component that is basically an empty class def but somehow executes a bunch of complex stuff via mixins, monkey patches etc, and you have to figure out how.

We are turning to https://sorbet.org/ to reign in the madness. I'm keen to know if others are doing the same, and how they are finding it (pros and cons)

According to https://sorbet.org/ , the vast majority of code at Stripe is written in ruby.

Caso de Stripe, que tuvo que inventar Sorbet para tener type checking en ruby.

> I guess what I'm asking is: do you see a future where there is more explicit control afforded to people who want to pick their own tradeoffs without resorting to writing everything performance-sensitive in extensions written in C/Rust/whatever?

An approach exists already in the present, and it's Stripe's Sorbet AOT compiler (https://github.com/sorbet/sorbet/tree/master/compiler).

That's incorrect. You may be thinking of Stripe, and AFAICT it's not very actively developed anymore: https://github.com/sorbet/sorbet/commits/master/compiler