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carbon-lang
- Carbon Copy Newsletter No.2
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Cpp2 and cppfront – An experimental 'C++ syntax 2' and its first compiler
The roadmap for Carbon [0] mentions wanting to have basic, non-trivial programs written in Carbon by the end of 2024. They're aiming for a v0.1 release in 2025. If it gains traction, they're aiming for a v1.0 beyond 2027.
I don't think anyone outside Google will seriously adopt this before it reaches v1.0. Even within Google, they may choose other options.
[0] - https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang/blob/trunk/do...
- Carbon Language Newsletter, the Carbon Copy, February 2024
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Odin Programming Language
Carbon was started by Chandler Carruth, at Google, but they wanted to move it to broader governance quickly. It's not under the Google GitHub today, but its own org.
https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang/blob/trunk/do...
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C++ Should Be C++
What do you think about Carbon[1]? I am hopeful.
[1] https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang
- The NSA advises move to memory-safe languages
- Carbon Language: An experimental successor to C++
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Toward a TypeScript for C++"
https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang/blob/trunk/do...
next year 0.1 will be usable, 1.0 is about 3 years away, sigh, back to my rust fight
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Programming Languages Every Developer Should Watch Out For
1. Carbon
jakt
- The Jakt Programming Language
- "Useless Ruby sugar": Pattern matching (Pt. 1)
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Essence: A desktop OS built from scratch, for control and simplicity
SerenityOS is doing exactly that:
https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Ladybird
I also like their Jakt programming language:
https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt
Though I'm more enthusiastic about Redox (doing it in Rust):
https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os/redox/
- Jakt (Programming Language)
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Will Carbon Replace C++?
It's very opinionated and SerenityOS-focused, but the language Jakt ( https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt ) transpiles to C++, has memory safety and some very neat ideas for readability.
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Ask HN: Are people still using Pascal in 2023?
I love Rust, but its model and specifics would make it difficult to learn how to write code in other languages.
For low-level code, I think Carbon may fill that niche in the future. If it doesn't, C++ may be a good candidate once up-to-date books have been written and compilers actually support the modern spec. Classrooms/guides would need to move away from the still-lingering "C++ is C with classes" approach and use the standard library before that can be a reality, but this book[0] by Bjarne Stroustrup himself demonstrates the future C++ _could_ have if all the modern language features become usable.
In business, C++ will still be the domain of ancient clusterfucks compiled by MSVC++ 6 in many areas, similar to how most Java code is still built around Java 8 because that was the most recent stable version for many projects' lifecycle (and Oracle's decision to only ship JRE 8 to consumers doesn't help) and how .NET 4 is still taught in schools because the new and scary dotnet tool doesn't map 1-to-1 with the old way of working. I can't imagine microcontroller toolkits supporting a modern version of _any_ language in the first place.
However, if more people would learn modern C++ (or a replacement, like Carbon), I think this class of programming languages can have the same growth and hype Rust has enjoyed for the past years.
I'm keeping my eye on Carbon and Zig. Google's influence has managed to push Go to the forefront despite its many quirks, and Zig seems to be focused on doing "C, but right" rather than "C++, but right" which so far is looking pretty promising.
It's also fun to see Jakt[1] being developed in real time; I don't think it's a language that will be useful for production software any time soon, but on the other hand it's a language that actually produces binaries reliably (unlike pre-alpha Carbon or pre-release Zig, the latter exposing many problems after switching to a self-hosted compiler).
[0]: https://www.stroustrup.com/tour3.html
[1]: https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt
- The Zig programming language has been ported to SerenityOS
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Multiplayer counter strike like game without game engine - just php 8.1, fully open sourced
About php, I have no problem of rewriting whole game for performance reasons once it is done and popular in low level language like https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt but I think for now php is good and sufficient.
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☘️ Good luck Rust ☘️
Jakt, pretty well designed (lots of ideas stolen from ML/Rust), but very immature
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SerenityOS author: "Rust is a neat language, but without inheritance and virtual dispatch, it's extremely cumbersome to build GUI applications"
I think this thread might be interesting to the people here. The guy eventually started working on his own safe language, Jakt: https://github.com/SerenityOS/jakt
What are some alternatives?
rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.
zig - General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.
crubit
Rust-for-Linux - Adding support for the Rust language to the Linux kernel.
cppfront - A personal experimental C++ Syntax 2 -> Syntax 1 compiler
hylo - The Hylo programming language
Odin - Odin Programming Language
ionide-vscode-fsharp - VS Code plugin for F# development
go - The Go programming language
autocxx - Tool for safe ergonomic Rust/C++ interop driven from existing C++ headers